Speaker 1: 0:30

My name is Dr Lake but I'm one of the functional medicine and internal medicine specialists at our practice, and our practice is called Mint Life Health and we're located in Sterling Virginia and the type of services we provide are well, one, basically primary care, but we do it in a functional medicine basis, so we understand the genetics of the condition and prevent, reverse and focus on longevity of the patient, basically. And the other side of things is the mental health part, behavioral health, which Dr Mahrukh is our specialist there and she provides services such as yeah, so I'm Dr Mahrukh Misdansar.

Speaker 2: 1:16

I have a PhD in peace psychology. Now, peace psychology is very different than the clinical psychology and I provide services in executive coaching, mental health coaching and consulting, hypnotherapy, neuro-linguistic programming. It's more like a holistic approach to the problem, to the concerns, to the emotional challenges or, in fact, if somebody is going through a rough patch of life, how to coach them, how to validate their emotions and how to get them out of their emotionally stuck state. So the services are more based on these modalities.

Speaker 3: 1:50

Wow. Can I ask how you both met and how you both ended up in the industry and why you chose this specific industry to work in?

Speaker 1: 1:58

Absolutely Well. We met after marriage. So we are husband and wife team. So when we got married, I was still going through residency for my internal medicine training and we got married and she actually came to the United States and she was still going through residency for my internal medicine training and we got married and she actually came to the United States and she was still doing her PhD.

Speaker 1: 2:20

So during that time she finished her PhD and we went on a journey to explore what's possible and where we can help the most. And this is what we figured out that this is the best way forward for us to, you know, have our own practice where we can practice freely and help as many people as possible, as opposed to being in a sort of insurance-based world where there's not much, you know, leeway for us to practice freely as we would like and patients don't get the full benefit of the treatment and our treatments are really very different than what's out there under the insurance paradigm. So that's how we met and this is where we are. And when she did her extra trainings into hypnotherapy neurolinguistic programming.

Speaker 2: 3:06

Transpersonal psychology as well. Yeah, wow.

Speaker 1: 3:10

That's how we started our business.

Speaker 3: 3:11

That's awesome. Is there anything you wanted to add to that?

Speaker 2: 3:15

our reasons. That's awesome. Is there anything you wanted to add to that? Yeah, actually I did my training in postdoctoral training in transpersonal psychology. I was very fascinated and intrigued by this field. I did practice in the clinical realm and I really totally enjoyed it. But the loophole that I personally this is my opinion I personally feel that as a clinical psychologist or a clinical therapist, mostly professionals are unable to coach because of the influx of the patients and the insurance-based practices. So I figured out that coaching, contextualizing with the psychological principles and beyond the clinical spectrum for example, transpersonal psychology, our day-to-day life stressors, the emotional challenges that everybody goes through if we are able to help them in that and prevent them in falling into the clinical spectrum, that could be really beneficial to the society and contributing to the well-being of the society. So that was the major goal. I could have, you know, gone to the other route, which is the clinical, but I chose the executive and corporate psychology and transpersonal because I believe that it is more holistic. This is just my opinion.

Speaker 3: 4:20

Yeah, no, I love it. Thank you for sharing that, and I noticed online that some of the things that you like to offer in your office is neuro-linguistic programming, nutritional genomics, pain management and hypnosis. Can you talk to me about those and how hypnosis is playing a part in your office and how it helps clients?

Speaker 2: 4:44

Yeah, hypnosis is actually a science.

Speaker 2: 4:47

Mostly people think that hypnosis is a deep trance state where a practitioner can ask a patient or a client to do anything and a client or patient would be able to do anything they want.

Speaker 2: 4:58

No, it's not like that, and whatever TV media shows you about hypnosis, it's all gimmick. Okay, hypnosis is actually more focusing on, you know, when we focus on subconscious part of your mind. So mind has three topologies, like unconscious mind, subconscious mind and conscious mind. So the conscious mind is directly connected to the prefrontal cortex, while the subconscious mind we consider it as the nucleus, a powerhouse of your existence. All your feelings, all your emotions are in there and hypnosis basically helps you in figuring out your feelings, figuring out your emotions. It's working on the subconscious mind by passing the conscious awareness. For example, if you drive and you lose the track of distance, that's a natural state of hypnosis. So, according to research, a human mind can go in this state of hypnosis twice a day. So, for example, if you're cleaning the table and you put your glasses on the table and you just feel like, oh my God, where did I put the glasses? So that's a natural state of hypnosis, there and just in front of you.

Speaker 3: 6:13

I never would have thought of it like that. I don't even consider that. I'm just like oh, I just forgot, but really that's what it is, yeah.

Speaker 2: 6:19

Hypnosis is a natural state of mind and we help people in coming into that natural state of mind. Awesome, did you?

Speaker 3: 6:24

want to add to that Well, I mean.

Speaker 1: 6:26

So my side of thing is obviously the nutritional genomics part. Basically, what that means is any disease you take has a root cause, right? So in medicine, I've been in medicine for about 10 years and I can tell you with conviction that I'm yet to cure anyone, right? I've worked in the hospital setting, we've worked in outpatient setting, I've worked in multiple different settings. Yet there is no cure per se, because we don't really go curing people. We look for quick you know quick fixes and band-aids and have them on their way.

Speaker 1: 7:00

Unfortunately, that's the paradigm that we're following in the healthcare system these days.

Speaker 1: 7:05

So what we have come up with is something that is much more deeper rooted and look at the problem from a genetic perspective. So that's where the nutrition and the genes come together and we recognize, okay, well, in your genes these things you do not have. You may not even make certain molecules that your body really, really needs, right. So we can figure that out when we can start plugging those things in and then, without even any other intervention or any medical intervention, you're already feeling great. You're already having the numbers looking much better. Your inflammation is going down. I mean, obviously this is much more of a complicated process but to just simplify it, it's basically taking your genes and looking at the phenotype, which is the presence, the physical body that you're in, how those processes are working according to your genetics and how to optimize them with different molecules and different supplements and different foods and specific diets that we prescribe with your genetics that actually align with your health. So that's kind of in the short, you know short way to describe nutrition genomics.

Speaker 3: 8:17

That's awesome. I'd like to ask how are you able to find based on your genetics? What does the testing look like? Is it through blood work like swabs? How do you find that?

Speaker 1: 8:26

So there's a few different kinds of, and nowadays you know how we have basically mapped the whole genome for human beings, right? So now we know what are these small nucleotide polymorphisms. This is what we look for and those genes specifically code for certain things, right? So we have a lot of information that we can test for now, and these tests are very they're not very common because, you know, obviously the regular industry doesn't use it. So these are very specified tests that we can use and you know they cost. Regular industry doesn't use it. So these are very specified tests that we can use, and you know they cost a little bit extra, obviously, but they give you information for the rest of your life. Like, once you know your gene patterns, you know them for the rest of your life. They're not going to change. Wow, right. So this is how we and we have testing for the genes. So the genes will give you the whole map.

Speaker 1: 9:21

Then we test for nutrition what type of nutrition you have, and we can look at all of those nutritions and look at what type of. You know where you're lacking. We can look at your gut and we can take samples from your stool, blood, urine, any of this stuff and you can do it at home. You don't need to go to a lab or anything. You could just do either send it to you at home, we send you the, the kits and you send it back.

Speaker 1: 9:36

Um, so lots of hormones, we do. We could do hormone therapy, testosterone, hormone replacement for for women, um, so all of this is this is all encompassing, so you can't leave any of this stuff. Autoimmune disease, diabetes, weight loss, hair loss you look at everything, not just you know, oh, you're coming in for blood pressure and I'm just going to give you a medicine for blood pressure and just go on your way. It doesn't work like that. A human body is not just heart, not just the brain, not just the legs or the feet or the hands. It is a full body, is a full structure that works in conjunction with each other. So if one is hurting, the other is hurting, you see. So this is how we treat as a holistic approach to the human body.

Speaker 3: 10:18

That's incredible. I want to ask you about telehealth, because it's not just in person, it can also be through telehealth. How did you find out that? I guess this was a service that you could open up for more people and help them, as opposed to just coming in all the time?

Speaker 1: 10:34

Maybe can you help people who are not maybe living so close by? Yeah, absolutely, in fact. You know, after COVID, telehealth has made a huge comeback. It was already there. I was still using it as a practitioner, but not as openly. I think people were not very open to that at that point. They thought that actually physically going in was more of a, which I understand. I think the connection is very important.

Speaker 1: 10:56

But you know, in today's world where having a physician or someone really see you in office is getting kind of difficult, now you go to a primary care physician, you may never see a physician.

Speaker 1: 11:09

You actually might see someone else like you know, an assistant or a secretary, and they'll get your information. But regardless, availability for us was a big thing, key. Like, yes, we can see you in the office. However, if you don't have the time, we can still do the telemedicine part and across state lines, it doesn't have to be if they're not here, sure, that's okay. We can go across state lines and still, I'm licensed in 25 states so I can practice in each of those states, prescribe, test, whatever needs to happen, we can still do If there is, let's say, physical. You know, because the main reason why we see patients in person is to do a physical exam. When it comes to that, if I have to do a physical exam or if I think that I need a chest x-ray, I can still send that to you. You know, the necessity of a physical exam is kind of lowered now because of the technology that we have.

Speaker 1: 12:03

So therefore, yes, we serve a cross state and just like with, even with actually. I'll let her explain the hypnosis part, because that is working very well for us.

Speaker 3: 12:13

Yeah, I would love to hear more about that the contextualization of hypnosis and neurolinguistic programming.

Speaker 2: 12:19

So what we personally, you know, we have seen in the practice that when people are coming to us, and especially when they're going through the rough patch of life, there's a natural human mind tendency to blame themselves as victims, and we totally understand that. We validate the emotions, but at the same time, your brain does not understand the difference between the imagined reality and the real reality you are living in. So when you have this victimhood mentality, what happens is you just freeze your growth, your psychological growth. So, while looking at it, neuro-linguistic programming helps you in reframing that perspective. For example, if somebody is going through the rough patch of life and they have a relationship breakup, they come to me and they say I did not deserve this. So this is a very harsh statement that you are telling to yourself. So we help them in reframing that sentence, that thought pattern, instead of looking at I did not deserve it, say it. That thought pattern Instead of looking at I did not deserve it, say it. You know, what can I learn from my experience? Extrapolate the major lesson the pain in your life is going to be there. You cannot, you know, just defy pain. It's inevitable. However, suffering is avoidable. Yes, so when we have this victim mentality, we suffer more. It's a psychological snowball effect that we get ourselves involved in and which is why we freeze our emotional and psychological growth.

Speaker 2: 13:51

So NLP and hypnosis in combination they help people in getting out of their emotionally stuck state and psychologically, you know, when people are frozen they're like, oh my God, I can't do anything, I don't feel like doing anything, I'm not worthy of love.

Speaker 2: 14:09

You know that there are so many things that they could think of. And then they get involved in that kind of a mindset and they go deep down and down and down and neglecting their own self-respect, neglecting their own health, emotional health. So these two modalities I personally believe are extremely helpful in giving different perspective, in changing and shaping mind, because you know, there is a very famous phenomenon of neuroplasticity that we, when we are going through the emotional pain, we don't understand that what we're doing to ourselves. You need a person, a neutral person, a third person, a practitioner, a professional who can guide you or navigate you in those challenges, and these practices are very good. Nlp has further sub-modalities, though, but I typically contextualize. I don't only use hypnosis, I don't only use NLP, I'm very creative with the practice. I try to contextualize both of them and it's a tailored, systematic approach with you know, which is aligning with the principles of neuroscience as well.

Speaker 3: 15:15

Yes, wow, can I ask, just because I'm so curious about the hypnosis part how do you get them in that state? Or is it like a? I don't, I can't even imagine, because again the movies have made it so like, look at this clock and it's going back and forth, you know. So I'm just curious about that.

Speaker 2: 15:33

Yeah. So the trance state is more about relaxing, relaxing your mind. You're bypassing that conscious awareness, You're totally relaxed. And hypnosis is more about visualization. So what I personally do, I first in my first session there's, of course, history taking understanding about themselves, personality assessment and then systematically going and making the approach, customizing the approach. So we have to first declutter the emotional space. So what is this emotional space?

Speaker 2: 16:02

People do have anger issues. People do have blame issues. People do have blame issues. They blame themselves, sometimes they blame others and there are so many emotions.

Speaker 2: 16:11

But the problem is that most of the people out there, they tend to identify themselves with one emotion. However, as a human being, as a human mind, we have different parts of personality Happy part, anxious part, sad part, broken part. So, whatever phase of life you are in, one of the parts hijacks your entire personality and all of the other parts are being affected by that. For example, if you feel sad, you can't label yourself as a sad person. It's just a phase of life, it's going to pass. You have other parts of your personality too, such as feel sad. You can't label yourself as a sad person. It's just a phase of life, it's going to pass. You have other parts of your personality too, such as happy part, motivated part.

Speaker 2: 16:48

So when people are coming to me for hypnosis, I first declutter that space, that emotional space. You cannot put somebody in the trance state if the emotional space is all cluttered. Yes, Because they would be constantly thinking about what happened in their past, what's happening in their future, or would be anxious about their future. So we have to first declutter that space, put them in the relaxing exercises and then they go into the trance state. And the trance state is not, but they're very much aware of what's happening in their surroundings and whatever the practitioner is asking.

Speaker 3: 17:30

So it's a visualization process, a process of visualization, tapping into your subconscious energy and aligning it with the conscious mind. Thank you for sharing that Like again, the way you described that is not at all like how the movie's depicted. So the fact that you're talking about, like we gotta get you focused on this one thing and declutter, like like all the other issues, and kind of maybe assess and recognize those other issues before you can get to the root of it all, so that is incredible. I want to ask you guys can you elaborate on your strategies for longevity optimization and how they differ from conventional approaches for long-term?

Speaker 1: 18:09

for long-term Correct. So the way we think of longevity is optimizing the health of an individual and steering them away from disease. So we want to take over when there is no disease, ideally speaking. Right. So, an ideal situation. I'll have a patient who is relatively younger 20, 25 years old, who's about to go into his 30s and get the responsibilities of the world upon his shoulders, right? So we're looking at, okay, well, you know, where do we make the most mistake? Well, the college is number one, right so, where we start getting off track.

Speaker 1: 18:36

So let's, if we can control it from there on forward, great. Even if we don't, let's go up to the 30s, 35, when you're in the real life, you're still focused on work, focused on probably bad diet. If you're not very, you know, conscious of it, conscious of things, then, so we control it right there. We take the genetics test. I mean, I would ideally like a patient to be younger, but even if it's older, we can also go backwards. Right? So longevity and health is one and one. You can't separate the two, right? So if your health is good, optimized from very, you know, very first moment, or whenever you start paying attention to your health, then longevity follows Longevity. You can't really even think of it until you're 80, 90 years old. Okay, oh great, I did really well for myself. I don't have this disease, that I have that disease, but that starts very early. It doesn't start at 60, 70 years old, although things are possible now. But still, the quality of life is what's more, most important, so that you can do the things that you want to do play with your kids, you know, do a lot of these things, because most of us, you know things happen and by the time we hit 40, you cannot, you know, keep up with your kids, and that's a complaint of a lot of patients that I see. But to get them back from there is a process. So your hormones, right. So we regulate your hormones.

Speaker 1: 20:01

Because right now nobody tests the male person for testosterone, nobody tests their hormones, because that's not a thing that might be a little that's crazy. It's crazy because I remember and I'll tell you, I served in the military for six years. I got out of the military, I had some fatigue issues and you know I'm very active, but I went to the VA, I got a test. I'm like I want to get my testosterone checked, and you know I'm very active. But I went to the VA, I got a test. I'm like I want to get my testosterone checked and I kid you not, it was 200 something, which is low. It's very low for a 24 year old, you know, man, that's very low. But you know who was? There was some practitioner who didn't really know much about this stuff and they're basically just following certain protocols and they're like oh no, this is within the normal limits, which is absolutely wrong.

Speaker 3: 20:46

Oh my gosh, what are the? What are the normal ranges?

Speaker 1: 20:50

So there's no such thing as a normal range. It's about, in my opinion yes, they, the, the, the medicine will tell you it's 300 to 800 or 900, whatever that may. But then if you have a patient who has 300 or 400 testosterone, I guarantee you they're not feeling well, they don't feel like a man. They feel I mean not like a man, but like they don't feel like they can do a lot of those things that they were able to do before. So but once you start replacing them and we have to do it specific, you know, with specific protocols, because these things can also turn into estrogen with, with estrogen, with a molecule that's in your system, an enzyme that can quickly convert that testosterone to estrogen and now you're you know you're not getting the benefits.

Speaker 1: 21:31

So we have to be careful with what we're doing. That's why you should go to a practitioner who knows what they're talking about when they're about to give you testosterone. So once you give them that, once the levels hit 800, 700, 900, even 1,000, some people, they're feeling great, they're able to do so many different things and this is a small change you don't even have to have shots. Nowadays. Creams are better than shots.

Speaker 3: 21:58

What that's crazy.

Speaker 1: 21:59

They're more absorbed. You said creams like cream on your skin.

Speaker 3: 22:03

There's cream on your skin for testosterone.

Speaker 1: 22:04

Yeah, it's 80% absorbable, as opposed to if you give yourself a shot and then that thing that's like a half. The absorbability is about half of the cream, it's about 40%. Oh my goodness. So it's not that hard, but people have to be educated on this topic.

Speaker 3: 22:21

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 22:21

So, to come back to your question longevity and same thing with females. Obviously the same thing applies right. So longevity depends upon what nutrition you're taking and on the long term, not. You know, I just did a diet in a month and I'm done.

Speaker 3: 22:36

It doesn't work like that.

Speaker 1: 22:37

It has to be consistent. You have to be on your supplementation consistently and that leads to and every day, the new things that are coming out, so we can incorporate all these new science that we see into a program that works well for our patients and individual patients, not just taking one size fit all approach.

Speaker 3: 22:57

Absolutely. Did you want to add anything to that? No, I think that's perfect. Yeah, he summed it up just perfectly for you. Okay, and then I want to ask you about utilizing no, I already asked you something similar to that, sorry. What unique challenges do executives face regarding mental health, and how does your approach cater to their specific needs?

Speaker 2: 23:17

So, yeah, most of the executives, they suffer with burnout issues and the relationship problems, workplace-related stress, and they don't have an outlet to share that because there's a lot more pressure on their shoulders and on their nerves that they have to make everything perfect. So we typically first first as I as I mentioned that first that there is a personality assessment session, then there is a talk session and then goes the modality session. That's very different than the talk therapy, the traditional talk therapy, where we where most of the practitioners, they keep on talking about the issues. We focus on solution-focused modalities. So what would be the solution? Okay, if you have this issue going on with your subordinate or with your employee, how are we going to get out of it?

Speaker 2: 24:02

So neurolinguistic programming has a lot more submodalities, as I just mentioned, especially for the decision-making. Also, the decision-making is a major issue with executives because of the stress, because of the ongoing conflicts that they have to suffer with or experience, sometimes at home and sometimes at the workplace. It could be a lot more. The list goes on, depending where it's, from one executive to the other executive. But mostly they struggle with decision making because of all these factors. They don't know when to make what kind of decision. So there is a very interesting modality of neurolinguistic programming which is called VAC model for decision making, which involves your all senses, like visual, auditory and kinesthetic.

Speaker 3: 24:50

Wow.

Speaker 2: 24:51

So you have to check mark all of them in order to make any decision. So you can't just, you know, if you're visual, if you're, you know, just looking at some stimulus or some kind of experience that you're having. You're still not listening to your gut and you're like, okay, no, this looks good to me on paper and I'm going to make this decision because this employee is too qualified and he should be best in this position. No, you have to make sure that your all modalities are aligned. If your gut is telling you something, you have to make sure that it's aligned.

Speaker 2: 25:23

So the decision making is a major issue and most of the time, it all comes from the repressed feelings and emotions as well. People, they tend to repress their emotions. They tend to repress their feelings because they feel like, oh, they're dealing with the issue very well. If they bring out all those feelings, it's going to be problematic. No, in fact, according to the psychological research, if you repress your feelings, they're going to be manifested in different kinds of psychological and emotional challenges, such as anger, toxicity, frustration, and that needs to be understood by most of the people. They think like, oh, by putting a lid on their feelings or putting a lid on their emotions, they would be able to manage the conflicts.

Speaker 2: 26:05

No we have to face those. We have to face those feelings. Those are part of our personality. It's more like a family member. If a family member is going through a tough time or a rough patch of life, you just tell them hey, I don't want to deal with you right now, so your feelings are just like your internal family, it's internal family system. Yep, if you're just trying to just abandon them, they're going to. They're going to be, they're going to be manifested in a different way, in a psychologically and emotionally challenging way.

Speaker 3: 26:35

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 26:36

So we help executives with that in embracing all those emotions, in embracing all those feelings into their core self and then making a decision according to the model that I just described.

Speaker 3: 26:47

Yes, no, well said, and it's so true. A lot of time executives are facing a lot, not just at work, but they harbor that and they take it home and then it manifests all over.

Speaker 2: 26:57

To displacement. Displacement phenomenon is very common in psychology.

Speaker 3: 27:01

My gosh, it's worse than I thought no, I'm just kidding. I want to ask you guys is there anything that I have not touched on that perhaps you want to share before we wrap this up? Whether it's about your practice or yourselves personally, you have the floor to share.

Speaker 1: 27:17

Perhaps we didn't touch on something, maybe about Mint Life Health, so the other thing that we do offer actually is, like you said, pain and regenerative medicine and regenerative medicine. So we do have on staff. If you go on our website, wwwmintlifehealth, we have Dr Namir Heather who's a pain and regenerative medicine specialist and he also does spinal surgeries. So these are regenerative surgeries where you basically take, let's say, somebody needs a decompression or something along those lines, where you're going to do in the vertebral column, you're going to break one of the bones so that there's not pressure on the nerve.

Speaker 1: 28:01

We can actually regenerate that part of that area with, you know, stem cells and there's multiple different types of things that we can use, and these stem cells are not coming from anything else but yourself, so they're coming from autologous, which means your own stem cells, from blood, from fat, from wherever.

Speaker 1: 28:18

We can sort of salvage them and then use them in your body to regenerate that part of your spine so that it aligns with obviously, obviously it's yours, so it's not going to get rejected, it's not going to be in a foreign body, it's your own. So they're going to make that kind of cells and where it becomes, you know the normal tissue. So now the pathology actually kind of goes away. You regenerate even the discs itself, the disc itself, now that works for Now, that works for shoulders, that works for knees, that works for hips. So you can regenerate the atherosclerosis I'm sorry, like the arthritis. The osteoarthritis actually kind of goes away because you can regenerate that cartilage that you know. When they say the knee-to-knee interaction, the bone-to-bone, that happens because the cartilage is gone, say the knee to knee interaction, the bone to bone.

Speaker 1: 29:12

That happens because the cartilage is gone. So when, if you can regenerate that cartilage around, there you are back to where you were, and now they're not touching anymore.

Speaker 1: 29:19

So that's just one small part of it. Uh, but we do offer that as well. And then you know, we also again myself we with functional medicine it's, and we also do internal medicine. So I'm not completely anti-medication or anti-normal typical medicine. I just think there's a better approach. So I like to combine both of those together.

Speaker 1: 29:41

If someone's on blood pressure medication and they need it well, that's just how it is they're going to need it Eventually. What we will do is get them off of that. So if you're sick, you are at a point where you're using 20 different medicines and I'm not exaggerating that. People are on this, I've seen this and we have to cut those medicines down one by one, especially and the other thing we'll talk about is psychiatry. If you think of psychiatry medications, people are on God knows five or six different medications. They're completely numb to their emotions. Your emotions are who you are. They make you. If you don't feel your emotions, they will break you. So I've seen many people on these medications that are not required. So we can start taking them off one by one and then actually supplement them with what she does, because that is cure.

Speaker 1: 30:35

This is not a cure. Medication is not a cure. That is a cure where you deal with your spiritual self. Your soul is what's hurting, not your brain. Brain is not something that's hurting or feeling the emotion. Brain doesn't feel emotion. It's your heart that feels emotion. So why do you hurt? When you're in pain in your heart, you don't get a headache, no, you get a heartache. That's the point. The point is we need to understand our pathology before we start to treat the pathology. We have a very, you know, skewed way of thinking about treatments, and even diagnosis, for that matter. Half the time I work in the hospitals. I work acute care, icu, I work ER. Everything that we do is not the cure, is not the cure. And I can tell you ubiquitously every doctor will tell you that because they want to do good things but they can't, because we are limited by our approach to the system, to the healthcare system.

Speaker 3: 31:39

Absolutely. And then you got to like make those quotas with the pharmaceuticals, make sure that people are on this type of medication and meeting that. So it's it's. It's a mess. So I'm glad that there's people out there who are doing holistic and other methods that aren't just like the temporary fix but the long-term fix, so you can get out of using those pills or those medicines, because they do come with a cost of side effects as well, and then you would need a pill for that side effect and then that side effect.

Speaker 1: 32:05

So you kind of got to and you know how many people check for those side effects Zero.

Speaker 3: 32:08

Oh my.

Speaker 1: 32:09

Zero. No, you will get the medicine and let's see what happens. It's me throwing a dart in the dark and see if it sticks. That's medicine, 100%. No one is checking if this medicine is specifically made, tailor-made, and if your enzymes that are in your liver, in your kidney you know that process these medications in your liver in your kidney.

Speaker 3: 32:32

You know that process these medications?

Speaker 1: 32:33

are they even processing it? Yeah, Can they even process in your specific physiology.

Speaker 3: 32:36

I don't know, I don't know. I don't know because I don't test.

Speaker 1: 32:39

Yeah. So we test before we don't guess, we have to test. If you don't test, then you know, you, you, what are we doing? But that requires time, right. So that's the problem. The problem is, the most expensive commodity right now is time for each one of us, because there are too many patients, too little practitioners who do these kinds of things and unfortunately we are in that bind. But you know, when you come to us, it's at least 60 minutes with you with each consultation that we do, Because we want to take the time to learn and understand you as a human being, as an emotional being and also as a patient. So there is all these three different modalities that we have to combine together. That's why, her and I, we work well, because we believe in mental health.

Speaker 1: 33:31

First, Once you don't fix your mindset, you're losing weight. That's completely psychological. It's completely psychological why? Because if I tell you to eat certain things and your mindset, you go home. You say, well, I'm just going to eat what I want to eat. It's not. You can stop your hands from not eating. You can stop your mouth from chewing. That's a conscious, you know effort that you have to make.

Speaker 1: 33:55

But if your mind is completely oblivious to the fact, okay, yeah, well, I'm not going to do that. So it's mind telling you to move your hand and pick up that food and eat right, or make the decision, the right decision. So it's all about mindset, it's so simple, but so hard.

Speaker 1: 34:09

It is hard, but with the right help. This is our point is that we don't have the right help. How many people actually go see a psychologist in order to lose weight? Or a hypnotherapist to actually lose weight? Because it's not a thing, it's not advertised enough or people don't know about it, but it is a thing. That is the main problem. People don't know about it, but it is a thing that is the main problem. We can't just take the Ozempic and the Manjaros and hope that we lose weight for the rest of our life. It doesn't work. In fact, the recent studies show as soon as you get off of that, your weight comes back.

Speaker 3: 34:44

They gain the weight back.

Speaker 1: 34:44

Yeah, I've seen that. That's very quick. So reason being why? Because you didn't change the mindset.

Speaker 3: 34:51

No, oh my gosh, that's crazy the way you put it in perspective like that. I'm just like that was true what you said. Like when you want to lose weight, you don't go to a psychologist, you go to a dietician, you go to your primary care doctor.

Speaker 1: 35:04

And they're right in their own way. They're not wrong in suggesting what they're suggesting, but it's the person who's not doing it and you know at least 80%. I mean, I'm just spitballing, but this is what I see of patients that do that. They don't really they. They have the time they end up getting surgeries, which is going to be even more complicated in the long run, yep.

Speaker 1: 35:25

They, they and they don't do well. People who do surgery, you know they lose weight but then they're still at some point their stomach gets used to expansion and now they're eating more. That's not the cure and it's thousands of dollars in that surgery and pain and the limitations that they put on themselves and you have to take certain, you know, pills along with it because you can't digest most of your food that you eat. Now it's insane. Don't do it. Anybody's out there looking for surgery unless you're, you know, really, really in need and your health is extremely deteriorated. It's an option, but still you can do it without all of those things, in the right situation and the right practitioners. And psychology is a hundred, 100%, you know. Top number one thing that you have to fix Absolutely One more time.

Speaker 3: 36:17

Where can people find you guys? Give me your website, your Instagram, all that good stuff.

Speaker 1: 36:22

Sure. So our website is wwwmintlifehealth, that's M-I-N-T-L-I-F-E dot health. Our Instagram is mint life at mint life, and you know everything is available on the website. Perfect. Probably don't remember all of the handles no worries.

Speaker 3: 36:41

No, that's okay. Well, thank you guys, so much for sharing a lot about your industry and about mint, life, health and what you guys are able to do and how you're able to help people. I really appreciate your time. Thank you so.