Speaker 1: 0:30

I'm Marley X Lake. I run a clothing brand called Inigale. We were founded in 2015. We've been going strong ever since. We literally sell everything from clothing, art, home goods. We do design services. If you want us to help you out with your business, we just do anything and everything under the sun in terms of art and design.

Speaker 2: 0:52

Yeah, I love that and what you're wearing right now is actually an outfit that you designed. Is that correct?

Speaker 1: 0:57

Correct. Yeah, this is something that's probably going to drop, I think, in maybe late February, march. Our new moto jersey, I just call it like a, basically like a Inigale billboard, just something that is really eye catching, great colors, but then it just says something without you having to say anything.

Speaker 2: 1:12

Yeah, I love it. I'm going to get into a little bit more detail here in just a bit, but before we do that, tell me a little bit of a backstory on the name. How did you come up with that name and what does it mean?

Speaker 1: 1:23

Absolutely so. I've been studying the French language basically my whole life, since about five years old, and so it's kind of always been a part of me and I've always wanted to make clothing and I wanted to have a name that was chic yet not too unapproachable. So that's kind of where Inigale stemmed from it's French for unequaled, unparalleled. It's really not necessarily about you or me versus me. It's more so about just being your best self and how clothing and art makes me feel like a million bucks, and I just want to impart that feeling on the audience.

Speaker 2: 1:53

I love that. That's wonderful. And now I'd like a backstory on you and what got you into your industry, what made you want to start your clothing company and what did you have in mind for it when you first started making it?

Speaker 1: 2:06

Absolutely yeah. So honestly, I've just always been a person of culture. My mom's really into style and she's an artist herself, and then my grandfather taught photography my grandmother. She worked in the art business. Then, on the other side of the family, they were both super stylish people. So fashion, style, art, has just been in my family. It was pretty much a foregone conclusion that I was going to go down this path. But I can just remember years of going shopping with my mom running in between the racks just being completely intrigued, and I was the kid that I didn't get mad when my mom said we're going shopping.

Speaker 2: 2:41

So like yes, let's go.

Speaker 1: 2:42

Exactly so. Just my more opportunities for me to touch things, the colors, the materials. I was just in love since I can, as early as I can remember, and I've just been doing that ever since and I got to really learn about fashion from the completed product up to the fabric. Most people learn how to sew and they start from there and go up, but I was already shopping and I really learned seeing finished products and going, oh, I like this, I don't like that. And then I just kind of took everything that I was able to learn and self-taught and then just now we're here.

Speaker 2: 3:12

Okay, that is amazing Self-taught.

Speaker 1: 3:20

So did you teach yourself to like sew and like? See all the patterns. So I learned.

Speaker 1: 3:22

I've learned a lot about like pattern making I actually taught myself how to graphic design, just because I got a free laptop once and I saw that as an opportunity. I then took a digital art class in 11th grade one semester and I was felt, honestly, I just felt really good because it showed me that, oh, I can draw, I can express my ideas. I wasn't someone that was necessarily skilled with a pencil or pen or I wasn't painting any masterpieces Picasso pieces exactly, exactly no but for me I was like you know what I really can create art once I found the digital art lane so I got really proficient at that. You know I think I'm getting close to the expert level, but nonetheless I got really proficient with graphic design and I've since been just adding more and more skills. I'm about a novice at sewing, so I'm definitely going to add that into my repertoire, but I've worked with factories, so I'm pretty like savvy in all things clothing.

Speaker 2: 4:10

That is awesome. I would say you are an expert because, like you're able to put on a shirt and bring it to life, I'd say you're an expert. Appreciate it there's always room for growth in any industry right.

Speaker 1: 4:20

Absolutely, absolutely.

Speaker 2: 4:21

That's awesome. And now talk to me about this piece right here that you have, that you brought in.

Speaker 1: 4:25

Definitely so. This is our double-sided silk scarf. Basically, we just, you know, taking our custom sous-reale this is Smile for, for french. This is our double smiley face, basically featuring our monogram font. So you get two looks with a double-sided scarf, and we wanted to make it round because that, just that's different. The logo, exactly so it's. You know it's a bit harder to tie but nonetheless, you know you can easily get a multitude of looks off with this yeah, absolutely, I love it.

Speaker 2: 4:53

And what does the happy face stand for? Like on your shirt and on the scarf?

Speaker 1: 4:56

Yeah, so this is our signature logo and basically it just really means that you're okay. You're always okay, you're good regardless. That's our mantra at Inigale it's good regardless, no matter what's going on. Basically, no matter which way you turn it, it's smiling, so you're just going to be okay.

Speaker 2: 5:11

That's so true when it is a normal quote, unquote, smiley face. It's sad when you turn it upside down, but this one you're like no.

Speaker 1: 5:17

Yeah, it's basically just embodiment, the ultimate cool factor Cool under pressure, cool in the worst moments, cool in the best moments, good regardless.

Speaker 2: 5:25

I love it. Is that the mantra of the company?

Speaker 1: 5:27

Yeah, exactly so it really started from just when I was having a bit of a tricky moment in my life and I designed this smiley and then from there I was thinking it was more about smiling and positive energy which it is but one of my people that work on my team he said no, this is like the ultimate, this is like the coolest thing, like you're good regardless, and I was like that's it and I was. We've been sold ever since with that and it really just embodies the you know, the cool factor and like the emotional growth that we're trying to embody at the company.

Speaker 2: 5:58

That is awesome. I'd like to ask about marketing and what is working for you or isn't working for you with getting your name out there, and what are some strategies, maybe, that you can share with other business owners that you find you like in order to promote yourself?

Speaker 1: 6:13

Absolutely yeah.

Speaker 1: 6:13

So of course you know we use social media, mainly Instagram, and previously, for like the last couple of years, I was doing a lot of the modeling with another one of my team members, my brother, and the photo shoots have increased year by year in terms of quality, so that's been really great.

Speaker 1: 6:30

But I find that we're getting ready to transition to more video because obviously we see how Instagram moves and other platforms, but really I just feel that it better embodies the swagger that we want to communicate to the audience, our messages, and I also found that just doing a lot of vendor events and things like that have been really great and just as many potential like quote unquote times where you can be in front of the customers yeah, whether you sell one shirt or you sell a hundred. You know, I just keep putting myself in new scenarios. Of course you know the video shoots and photo shoots are great when you post them and you can garner more of an audience with that. But I find myself also just continuing to be in public spaces as a way to network and a way to grow the business and grow the customer base, and I'd recommend to just make sure that, if you have a business, stay grounded and just stay outside.

Speaker 1: 7:21

I'd say you know what I mean Keep interacting with people, no matter how high up you get, because it'll also keep you like really buzzing and fresh with ideas.

Speaker 2: 7:28

That's right, I love it. And when you're coming up with your ideas, do you often make like mood boards, or or do you try to not look at mood boards so you can come up with your own creative ideas? Or how does that work when you're coming up with the designs and the themes?

Speaker 1: 7:41

I guess yeah, definitely so. Storytelling is a big part of what we do. So I do like to create mood boards and I kind of like to get into character, so to speak.

Speaker 2: 7:52

So the collection that we have dropping you can put on the ledge here yeah, absolutely that we have dropping.

Speaker 1: 7:57

Uh, you put on the ledge here, yeah, absolutely, the collection that we have dropping later, uh, literally in a couple days, career day. I had a bunch of different pictures of, like, a child's career day because that was a theme for that yeah then for this when we do our moto jersey. The theme behind this is winning motorsport.

Speaker 2: 8:12

Motorcycles like just yeah, I can see that gears, you know.

Speaker 1: 8:15

so we going to have that on the mood board and these are images that we compile. We make our own mood boards and it's really to help streamline the creative process, because there's no rhyme or reason with creativity. But once you're stepping past that, there is a structure that you can use to make things as streamlined as possible.

Speaker 2: 8:31

Absolutely. And now you told me, or you mentioned, about your brother and team. Talk to me about your team. Is it you and your brother? Is it mostly you? What's your team look like?

Speaker 1: 8:41

Yeah, so it's well. Now it's five of us, but initially it was just four. It was my younger brother and two of my best friends and we recently added a fifth person and basically these are all people that I've obviously my brother, but people I've known for years, that are good friends of mine, been super supportive already when it was just me doing the business and for me to grow this where I believe it can go, I knew I needed the help with people who had expertise in things that I wasn't proficient at. Marketing didn't come second nature to me. I believe I can make cool things, but presenting things in a cool way is a lot different.

Speaker 1: 9:14

You know, and that's something that I struggled with and you know, I even have a partner with the design who helps me with the design stuff as well. That's in my team and you know, yes, I could design things by myself, but like having somebody that keeps me on point and that keeps me feeling as creative as possible and keeps the taste level high of what we're doing, yeah, it's just super important and it's it's even though it's work, it's something that I really enjoy. I just love spending time with them. I love spending time with the people who interact with us as well. Like, I just really love this process from top to bottom.

Speaker 2: 9:44

Absolutely. Have you ever considered maybe going to events, maybe like in New York, since it's closer on our side on the East? Um, maybe going to events where there's like public figures, content creators, and like maybe giving them some of the stuff in hopes that they could possibly wear it and also market that?

Speaker 1: 10:04

Yeah, so I used to live in New York and I go there pretty often, so I have a pretty good-.

Speaker 2: 10:09

Circle.

Speaker 1: 10:10

Yeah, pretty good circle up there, a lot of people who are in some cool places, and that's definitely gonna be something that we incorporate. For me, influence is relative, because you could have a huge following or not, but if you're influential within your circle, those are the people that we, of course, want to target. But, honestly, our support has just been so genuine and it's just been like it's been grassroots, but then it's not because, you know, we're making things of quality. This isn't a pity party but, at the same time, like, the people have really just supported us and continuing to support us, which is why we're able to continue doing what we do.

Speaker 2: 10:43

Yeah, I love it. Where do you hope to see yourself and your business in the next five years?

Speaker 1: 10:49

Great question just continuing to do amazing projects. In the next five years, I see us really going way past just the clothing and really getting into art installations and continuing it, to do in-person events for an audience, to where we can basically curate an entire event from the little bites that you eat, from the clothing that you'll shop, fashion show, art installation, you know. So, large scale sculpture yeah, just continuing to create, you know, experiences for an audience. And going past clothing, you know what I mean Whether that's who knows, maybe a cooking show, I don't know Like just all types of all types of random things and projects that we want to do. That you know. Of course, inigalea has a strong branding, but we also have other projects and ideas we want to present that have nothing to do with the brand. So a lot of that is going to be added into the fold over the next five years and then, of course, just turning this into the entire team's full-time gig.

Speaker 2: 11:46

Wow, that is awesome. Where did you think you would be when you were younger, like, where Was this always in your plan, like I want to be a clothing designer? Did you have maybe like a backup? Or where did you think you would be now, like in a different industry, or was it like I just go with the flow?

Speaker 1: 12:02

Honestly, I knew I would always be making clothes. I remember writing down. I found this paper not a few years ago. Actually, I wanted to be a clothing designer at 13. So, and the reason why I didn't start until about 21 was because I was into soccer and I still am. I love the sport top to bottom. It's a huge part of who I am and everything I've been able to learn as a person. But you know, it's hard to play professional ball and nonetheless, but you can still be involved in the sport. So I'm not going to lie. Of course I did want to play pro ball, but when I realized that you know's a tough uh ask for me and I realized how much I love the clothing and the art, and I realized I actually am probably better at that yeah soccer.

Speaker 1: 12:43

You know what I was like. I am supposed to be doing this, so I'm sure that, regardless if I had played pro or not, I would still be making clothes at this moment, because it's just, it's been in my DNA, styles in my DNA, like I can't escape it. No matter how hard I try, even when I try to bum it, I can't bum it.

Speaker 1: 13:00

Like I have to put effort in like even in my even in my worst day, like I still have to put it on, you know. So that's basically I. I'm where I'm at where I'm supposed to be.

Speaker 2: 13:09

I love it. Yeah, and do you have a favorite soccer team?

Speaker 1: 13:13

Yeah, I'm an Arsenal fan. It's been rough, you know, but I'm still a diehard fan and, honestly too, I just love the beautiful game. I love the connections that it brings If you have a ball, you have a friend. It's just something so special. And yeah, I've been supporting the team since 2002 and won't stop.

Speaker 2: 13:32

Nice. My husband's a big Liverpool fan, so of course I'm Liverpool.

Speaker 1: 13:36

Another top club. So I definitely understand and they're rolling right now.

Speaker 2: 13:44

Yes, yes, they are Um. What do you like to do in your free time? I know you like soccer. Do you like music, reading what?

Speaker 1: 13:48

are other things that you like to do to unwind, Definitely so obviously I do love music too, but really, for me, unwinding, I love playing video games. I love I do love to read. I love to just cook as well. I like to make things, do things with my hands, watch movies. Like I have a multitude of interests. I'm a complete busy body, kind of like a scattered brain in terms of I just like I'm all over the map.

Speaker 1: 14:09

You know, I'm open to do whatever, just love experiencing new culture, you know, through food or whatever. So you know, if I'm not having a lazy day I'm definitely out and about like doing something, yeah, Doing something. I'm have to be doing something or else I feel like I wasted the day.

Speaker 2: 14:23

So I feel like that too, and I saw online. Right now you have a current online shop so people can check out and get some of the collections. Will this one be also on the website once it comes out?

Speaker 1: 14:33

Once this comes out later February, early March definitely will be we have a career day collection that's set to that. By the time you guys see this, it will be out. So please go shop that while it's available. And yeah, we'll be having drops periodically every few months. We have a lot of products, a lot of concepts and a lot of stories we're looking forward to telling you guys.

Speaker 2: 14:53

I love that. And then I saw you have a lookbook and there's been other collections that you've had. So, yeah, I see the career day on there. You've got the work and the play. I don't want to pronounce this wrong. Yeah, I was gonna. I'll let you take that one over and then Keep Smiling the Showdown, pursue, pursue, power. Talk to me a little bit about those previous ones yeah.

Speaker 1: 15:19

So you know these collections, we really like to just tell a story. That's why I mentioned like getting into character. So, for example, pursue power is like one of our early collections, and that was just about the pursuit of power and finding qualities in the most unlikely places. So we chose four super villains Darth Vader, Aku the Joker and Frieza Icons only Exactly, and from there I was like I admired each of their pursuit of power. Of course you know these are fictional villains, but in just in terms of you can learn something from them too, and obviously we know how high quality the art is and we wanted to do something that was imaginative. These are properties that predate the brand, that predate me, but I still wanted to take something amazing and then give it even more life.

Speaker 1: 16:05

Um, then you go to like the showdown. For example, I was really inspired by like Western movies Clint Eastwood so we did like a whole collection, basically, of Western looks and this, of course, predates like the whole Western fat now. So this is you know, this is years ago. I designed this. Um. And then you go to like Le Jardin. We basically imagined like, well, what did it look like if you had your own royal garden, you know? So we designed like some work looks for the people who worked in the garden.

Speaker 1: 16:31

And then we designed your picnic look you know, you have to have your double wine bag and your cutting board for your cheeses, your salamis, your grapes. You know what I mean. So it's just we just go on like interesting tangents, basically, and, um, take it wherever we can, just try to tell unique stories about something that maybe caught our eye or that we're interested in at the time.

Speaker 2: 16:51

That is very awesome. Um, I also saw that you have pop-up shops. Sometimes you know when the next one will be.

Speaker 1: 17:02

We're hopefully aiming to be at Blackboard Art Show in DC. That'll be February 23rd. We were there last year. It was a phenomenal event. Just the energy, the support. You know we were no one really knew us in there and, nonetheless, like I felt like we left and made our mark with the people that we're able to speak to, so we're definitely looking forward to going back there.

Speaker 2: 17:16

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 17:17

And we're likely going to be doing Philly Blackbird Art Show in Brooklyn. It's like a little bit of an East Coast tour. You know Love it, so we're super excited about that. We'll be debuting this jersey, a different color of it, a couple of other really exciting things, some new artwork as well.

Speaker 2: 17:32

Very nice artwork as well, so very nice. And then, um, when it comes to distributing clothes, I guess like, do you is it more I'm not familiar with like the fashion world as a like, not as opposed, but like in the sense of like what it takes to manufacture it. Is it more like limited pieces are you like, do you get? Like a factory?

Speaker 1: 17:54

so it really just depends. This next career day collection, all the pieces are at least the silhouette choice. They're more basic, so one with you know, hoodies, t-shirts, crew necks and sweatpants, because we just kind of wanted to start the year with like a really even slate yeah from there.

Speaker 1: 18:09

Everything's hand dyed. I dye myself. Um, sometimes I print the things myself. It really just depends on the project. You know, if we don't have the capability to do it ourselves in-house, then we'll, you know, use a factory or one of our suppliers. Or if we do, we'll do it in-house. You know, it really just depends on what the project mandates. So if we need something that's super crisp and, you know, factory level, professional, then we'll do that. If we need something that's maybe a bit more rugged, that you can get from like a few hands touching it, then we'll do that. So it just really depends on what the project mandates.

Speaker 2: 18:41

Got it Okay. And then what have you found, as a business owner, that's been challenging for you when it comes to running your own business or even just starting it up or getting the word out?

Speaker 1: 18:53

Yeah, so obviously you know I'm not the only person that's dealt with this it's obviously you have to establish the value in your own products.

Speaker 1: 19:00

So that's through branding et cetera, which is something that I really struggle with because I'm typically anti-branding but then that defeats the purpose of starting a brand.

Speaker 1: 19:07

You need to establish a brand. You can, even if your branding is anti-branding, you can, establish something cool and get people to kind of follow you and be willing to build a new community through your business, and so that was definitely one of the challenges. And then from there, just like learning about like the business things, like you know getting your LLC and like you know how to keep track of the financials and all of that stuff, and that's stuff that I'm still like growing on, have growth on need to continue to learn. So it's not something that's done once you learn it, but it's just something that it's good to get that established. And then the organization you know make the pitch decks when you're presenting an idea, have your mood board saved correctly, have your files where they need to be, you know if you need to pull on something for a client or for anything you have it available for you and just keep yourself super organized.

Speaker 2: 20:02

So love that, and I know that you said you were self-taught. What are some resources that you found really helped you? Online books.

Speaker 1: 20:09

YouTube university, honestly, has been so clutch like, because it's pretty hard to just say, okay, teach me every tool in a particular program, versus, oh, I want to make a lamp, so then I then work to make the lamp project based is a lot easier to learn a new program or a new skill. So then from there, I would you know. So I'm starting to draw on the program. I'm like, okay, I want to create a shadow, what's a good way to do that? All right, youtube. How to create shadows in Adobe. What's a good way to do that? All right, youtube. How to create shadows in Adobe Illustrator. Then, from there, keep going, then just like.

Speaker 1: 20:41

That's basically how I learned and I just kept wanting to make things. So that's why I always mentioned, like, keeping your the desire to create high. That's why staying grounded is important, because it doesn't matter whether today or 10 years from now. I just love making things. So just to continue that and you'll really be able to pick something up. Now there are classes. Of course, I have not taken any, but I'm sure that the people who teach those are phenomenal, but you know, I just didn't have the time for that. I teach myself.

Speaker 2: 21:11

So that's kind of where the self-starter attitude. That is awesome. No, I think you're definitely where you're supposed to be and it shows that you're very passionate and you just love being busy and creating. So you're where you're supposed to be. What have been some new things? Maybe that you've learned about yourself that you weren't aware of before having your business?

Speaker 1: 21:28

Yeah. So I I'm a very emotional person. I lead with passion, and when I was younger I thought I was like very brash, and at times I was, but I've actually become very calculated um, which is something that's really surprised me, because usually you don't think of like high emotions with being calculated Um. But I felt like I've been able to blend the two, and that's obviously through growth, personal growth, you know, age, et cetera. You know just continuing to mature as a person, but then as an artist, as a business owner, like just putting yourself under the needle, so to speak, of like oh, I can do better than that, or that's not good enough, or that is good enough. All right, let's move on to the next thing. Yeah, that was really great, I could outdo that. Or that's not good enough, I could outdo that. So it's just a matter of like that's been super clutch for me in the process of just continuing to get better.

Speaker 2: 22:18

Yeah, and I like that self-awareness where you're like, okay, I want to be better than last year, or this wasn't good. I want to do it because sometimes people are how do I say this? They're not self-aware sometimes. Or maybe sometimes you need somebody else to come in and tell you something, because you're not seeing it and they see it, or vice versa, right. So I think it's good to have a good circle of people like you see it, or vice versa, right.

Speaker 1: 22:40

So I think it's good to have like a good circle of people like you. It sounds like you've had now on your team. Yeah, no, that's been super clutch, honestly, too, like one of my friends on the works with me on the team. He got out of the hospital and he's like grilling me. He's like we need to do better on this and that, and he was completely right and you know, I came out of the, the hospital, just grilling ready.

Speaker 1: 22:56

He's like it's time to get to it, it's time to improve what we're doing, and I was completely locked in. He was making perfect sense and that's why, like the last two years, we've just had a complete uptick. And even last year we kind of took a bit of a hiatus because we just needed a moment to really create what is Inigale's design language. We've done a lot of projects. People remember the short stories we've told with our collections, but we didn't have a consistent thread and aesthetic that was tying all that together. But last year that's what we established, was that? So it was countless design meetings, late nights, burning the midnight oil. What does that look like? And a lot of like.

Speaker 1: 23:43

One of the best parts about athletics actually is the being self-aware, because as a player I had to know my game. You know, I wasn't the most naturally athletic, so I had to play with my head. I had to be smarter on the pitch and with that has taught me be honest, know yourself. It's okay to trust and want to go further and even blindly have faith in yourself sometimes, but also it's good to completely be self-aware and say you know what? Okay, we did good here, here and here, but not here, because if it doesn't make dollars at the end of the day it doesn't make sense.

Speaker 2: 24:17

That's right. Yeah, no, you're absolutely right about that. I would like to ask you have I touched on everything, or is there maybe something that I am missing that you would like to share, whether it's in regards to your business yourself, maybe an organization, anything of that nature, that you'd like to share?

Speaker 1: 24:34

Yeah, so recently as of May of this 2024, I went to my old high school and spoke with a couple of art classes. Then I went back again in like September, and then I went to another high school, a friend of mine. She invited me to speak with her students. She teaches digital art and photography. Shout out Karen and shout out Blair, high school.

Speaker 1: 24:55

Um, nonetheless, I love speaking with young people or people in general, but especially young people who maybe potentially want to pursue something creatively or just need some guidance in general, even if it's not about creativity, so it's not necessarily with an organization, but it's just really making that a part of my practice, making myself available in any way possible, because I know how impactful it can be to have other positive figures in, you know, the young people's lives outside of their parents, outside of teachers, just somebody to keep them motivated, motivated on the straight and narrow, like you know, uh, life is tricky, there's a lot of distractions, but you know, look, look, you can see an example of someone who's you know, just trying to do better than they did yesterday, and I think that that's super important and I'm happy to make myself accessible to other students, whether in the DMV area or if I need to jump on a zoom call. Yeah, I'm really happy to do so.

Speaker 2: 25:52

That is awesome. Thanks for sharing that. Now one more time where can people check out your clothing and more information about you?

Speaker 1: 26:00

Definitely. So obviously we have a website, inigalexicom, so that's I-N-E-G-A-L-E-X-Icom. You can follow us on Instagram at Inigale. You'll see like all of our kind of lookbook shots, all the cool videos, and I'm Marley X Lake. You can find me anywhere with that.

Speaker 2: 26:20

That's a cool name, by the way.

Speaker 1: 26:21

Thank you. It's Marley Xavier Lake. For anybody who's wondering, it's my actual name.

Speaker 2: 26:25

I was wondering.

Speaker 1: 26:28

It's not a nickname, but yeah.

Speaker 2: 26:31

I thought it was maybe like a stage name or something.

Speaker 1: 26:32

I was like that's cool and my parents looked out. I love the name they did.

Speaker 2: 26:35

It's so cool, okay, cool. And now my final question do you have a quote, a saying or maybe your own mantra that you'd like to live your life by? Or maybe somebody's told you something that stood out? Would you like to just share that with our listeners?

Speaker 1: 26:51

The thing I'll share is the word for this year is heritage, and the reason why the word is heritage because, for me, years past, I try to be a good person, I try to live my life, you know, according to that. But I didn't really have things set in stone of how I wanted to live, what I wanted my future to look like, what I wanted the business to look like, what I wanted my legacy as a person or as an artist or whatever to be like. And this year I'm going to continue to establish the heritage of what the company looks like, of what my life looks like and what I impact on others looks like. So let's take that attitude in to establish that strong heritage. So when people look back years later kids, your own kids or whatever manifests in your life they'll look back and say you know what you did, all right.

Speaker 2: 27:37

I love that. That's so impactful and meaningful, so that's a good word for 2025 heritage. Thank you so much for being on the podcast and giving us your time and sharing a lot of insight on your new upcoming collection that's coming up. We appreciate it Awesome.

Speaker 1: 27:49

Thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 2: 27:50

Absolutely.