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Mindy Schulz - From Sales Powerhouse to Empowerment Coach: Navigating Personal Loss, Embracing Vulnerability, and Unlocking Potential Through Hypnotherapy and Creative Leadership
What happens when a high-flying sales executive trades in corporate success for a journey of personal transformation and empowerment? Join us as we sit down with Mindy Schulz, a former sales powerhouse who found her true calling in coaching and hypnotherapy. Mindy shares her poignant story of navigating through personal loss, ultimately discovering that embracing vulnerability and authenticity are key to overcoming challenges like imposter syndrome and self-worth struggles. Her journey is not just about personal healing, but about guiding others to unlock their potential by aligning their actions with their core values.
High achievers often grapple with the delicate balance between professional success and personal fulfillment. Mindy and I explore strategies for setting empowering boundaries and embracing discomfort as a catalyst for growth. We delve into the art of questioning limiting beliefs and fostering a mindset of playful curiosity to transform fear into opportunity. Through personal anecdotes and client success stories, we uncover the profound impact of coaching in fostering a holistic life approach, one that nurtures both leadership and personal relationships.
Creative storytelling and insightful questioning are at the heart of Mindy's coaching philosophy. We examine ongoing projects that highlight the transformative power of creative expression and conscious leadership. This episode challenges conventional views on coaching, presenting it as a sacred process of discovery rather than a directive one. As we close, we reflect on a timeless mantra: "Lead with love, always lead with love, and it will never steer you wrong," underscoring the vital role of compassion and presence in navigating life's stresses and finding peace.
My name is Mindy Schultz, my official business is Mindy Schultz Coaching and I perform consulting, coaching and hypnotherapy services for high-performing leaders Wow hypnotherapy. I can't wait to get into that.
Speaker 2:Now, before we get started into the nitty-gritty, I would like to ask you a little bit about yourself and your background and how you got started in your industry.
Speaker 1:I was in sales for quite a few years.
Speaker 1:I have a history as a high performing sales executive with multi-million dollar sales under my belt across the US and Europe, which was a lot of fun. However, I felt like I really wasn't making the impact that I wanted to make with humanity at large and with leadership and with people and the potential that they bring to the environment around them. And I did a lot of soul searching during that time and somehow came across coaching, which I don't remember quite how, but when I did find coaching, it was one of those electric tingles I'm like have you ever had that input of like, oh my gosh, this is the next, this is the next job, this is the next week? It was that kind of input and I'm a very intuitive person and listen to that. And so I said, okay, let's, let's delve into this, let's see what this is.
Speaker 1:I originally wanted to go into psychology when I was in college, took a complete detour, went into business and marketing and Spanish um and pursued the coaching, went through a very intensive certification program for over a year. I pursued the coaching, went through a very intensive certification program for over a year, and it was one of those situations where have you ever had a moment where something felt so at home, such a confirmation of who you are and your own abilities and your gift to the world. That's what this felt like, and so I started in that realm and coaching anyone who would listen and anyone who would be receptive and lit up my life. And I still have people reaching out to me years later Like I remember when you were just beginning and that changed my life, and so that meant a lot.
Speaker 2:That's awesome. That's so incredible. What has your journey been like? Like through struggles, anything that you'd like to share with us?
Speaker 1:A little bit of a credit, and my struggle has been a little bit different. I started Actually my first brand photo shoot was with Almond, so you are, it was like a very dear place in my heart and I started in that environment building my coaching business and then had a very traumatic loss in my family. My son and I were run over in a crosswalk near our home and that and he was killed. He was six months and so that put me in a very hybrid native state. I really withdrew from life and everything for a while and it's been a process of there's many levels of healing, but also coaching myself every minute of every day Where's the growth, where's the opportunity, where is who do I want to be? But also coaching myself every minute of every day of where's where's the growth, where's the opportunity, where is who do I want to be, how do I realign with, with my values and how I want to show up in the world.
Speaker 1:It's, it's been a lot of soul searching in that way. Yeah, um, which brought me back to the coaching realm and very clearly, very clearly message was given to me of you need to do this again and I kind of thought with that inner guidance and said, no, like I don't have enough capacity for myself, like how could I hold space for someone else. And it was very clear, looking to the coach, and finally I understood. When I accepted that, I said okay, I get it. That message to me and I think is so profound for everyone. It's like you have to be all of you in order to heal and to move forward. You can't section off parts of yourself or your life in order to try to move forward. And people seem to think that they can just soldier on and subdue their feelings or subdue their fears or subdue their challenges, and that won't only get you so far. You have to be all of yourself and love all of yourself to make true possibility happen.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, said, I'd like to ask you, um, what have been some challenges for you, um, and helping people Like I know what you've been through is. I can't even imagine what that would be like, but, like you said, you have to find yourself through a lot of soul searching. Has there been like challenges that you found like okay, I think I need to call my coach and like get a little bit of help in that realm, you know?
Speaker 1:Um, I always have a coach, Um, and I think, for a lot of people and a lot of people I work with and it's so funny, it doesn't matter how successful they are, how accomplished they are. There is this giant sphere of imposter syndrome and I just I always find that it's so humbling in a way, but yet it's so. It's almost funny, right, Like if we just start laughing at how much we think we don't belong at the table, when in reality we all belong at the table. It's just having the mindset of I have something to offer, this is who I am, and bringing that to the conversation, in my opinion, with a lot of love.
Speaker 2:Yes, absolutely. A lot of love gets you a long way, right, I love that. And then can you talk to me about some of the challenges that people are coming to you for, like whether it's entrepreneurs, high achieving people. What are the issues that they're having or what trends have you seen?
Speaker 1:It's funny Everybody says, oh, choose a demographic, and I'm like that doesn't work as well. I like to choose the psychographic. So I filter very clearly for people who have not just a bias for action but also this very growth oriented mentality and also a bit of playfulness, because we do deep level work with what I do. I have skills not just in executive leadership realm, but also in deep subconscious psychological work as well. I have a black belt in in executive leadership realm, but also in deep subconscious psychological work as well. I have a black belt in karate, so I bring that discipline to what I do.
Speaker 1:But it's always with an air of playfulness. It's like, how do we meet challenges, how do we move through the resistance of that next level, that next launch, that next idea, that next initiative that leaders want to create in the world? How do we move that resistance with a sense of playfulness? So it's not just fun, but it becomes easy because we're working at the subconscious levels where we eliminate all of those intrinsic biases that we have that keep us from moving forward in the way we really want to.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and now I know that the type of skill that you have is hypnotherapy. Can you talk to me a little bit about that, because I don't know anything about that. I've only seen in movies, where you look at the point or something. How does?
Speaker 1:that work. That's so funny so it's not mind control, just fine. I want to Thanks for clarifying that it's not mind control.
Speaker 1:I love it and it's in my own healing journey after trauma and loss. I tried so many different modalities. I did spiritual modalities and science and all the things and a few worked, a few didn't. But then I found hypnotherapy and primarily I am an advanced practitioner in rapid transformational therapy, which is a trademarked, registered sort of process. But it takes the best of all the hypnotherapy kind of ideas, nlp, psychological processes, behavior, such all that and brings it to a very succinct, very effective process.
Speaker 1:And I work with leaders in a sense of they come to me with they're struggling with. Maybe it's presenting their idea, maybe it's a lot of self-worth issues coming into play. Right, the reasons are varied. But we focus on and I do some coaching behind there's some assessments I do to really kind of find out what's really the thing behind the thing. Because if someone says, oh, I'm afraid of flying, I'm like you're not afraid of flying, like there's something else, there's something else doing that. So we take a look at what's behind the scenes and then we focus it in a therapy session on on that key point I like to work at.
Speaker 1:The work I do is at the most singular point. That creates the most effect, because everything is multifaceted, everything is fractaled in our lives. We are never just one thing, but if we find the root that is feeding everything else in our life and how we show up, that has the most effect when we can take a look at that and actually move on from that, from that position. Um, so the hypnotherapy allows us to delve into that kind of untangle, all of let me say, how can I say this in a way that people understand kind of untangle, all of the sabotaging patterns, the mental blocks, the mindset, the behavior patterns of how we interpret the world, and shift that in a way so it removes the emotional weight to it, because our subconscious is always responding emotionally. That's how we make decisions, whether or not we're aware of it. And so we untangle that and rewire it in a way that helps the logical brain, helps the conscious brain, helps the adult brain to say I've got this. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And sometimes that can be very hard because emotions are very strong and they can easily take over.
Speaker 1:I would know I've spent my life as quite a hothead, very intense. I'm a creative by nature. I live, work and breathe very passionately. So yeah, like emotions and what, what drives our creative force, what drives our life force, is really what fascinates me.
Speaker 2:How has coaching others impacted your own personal growth?
Speaker 1:Oh, I love that. I think if you're a coach who isn't growing and evolving in every conversation, you're not really a coach. You're just trying to tell people what to do. Mic drop, I think, being a coach, by nature, you have to be curious, you have to be growth oriented, and it's not just about how do I grow forward to meet my goals, but how do I introspectively like the times we're triggered, the times we have that negative self-talk, the times when the worst of us shows up. What do we learn from that? Right, instead of like.
Speaker 1:I have very strong, willed, neurodivergent children that are a challenging parent. I adore them and I feel myself triggered frequently and it's like, okay, I stop. What can I learn from this? I love that they are a force of nature. I love that they are brilliant. I love that they will stop at nothing to devise a way, creatively or with their strong will, to get what they want and need in the world, and I never want to damper that. And so I learned from them, and I think the most coachable moments we have are the moments that we are triggered ourselves.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a hard lesson, but it's doable, Right yeah? And then let's see. How would you differentiate yourself from other types of coaches or consultants out there?
Speaker 1:My differentiation is not just playfulness. I can be as formal as you need me to be, but I've also had a background in being a cartoon character. I bring this sense of you say we can't, or you say it's not the right time, why not? Let's just play with the idea. Let's play with the things that are uncomfortable, let's play with the things we can't do no-transcript.
Speaker 1:And it's such a difficult thing for people that are very high performing, high achieving, because every minute of every day is structured and focused and it's always about how can I build more into this capacity that I can hold, naturally more than other people, and a lot of the leaders I work with are very heart-centered, very conscious individuals, and so it is imperative with them that they create a larger impact with whatever they do, and naturally they have a larger capacity to hold everything going on managing their time or initiatives or community service, or parenting, or with their spouse or whatever, and they're pulled in a million different directions and a lot of it is underlying with this thought of I have to prove my worth by doing everything all the time Right.
Speaker 1:And so when we step back from that and bring a sense of playfulness and ease and and really aligning what truly matters to the things that they're actually doing. Do more of what works, less of what doesn't, and do it in a playful manner, and do that in a way that holistically affects the person. Not just leadership, not just team building, not just how they show up in their business, not just how they show up as a parent or a spouse or a friend or whatever. Everything we do touches the entire person, and so everything transforms, and I think, I think that's the best way, I think that's the only way it should be.
Speaker 2:Period and I would like to ask through being a coach and helping people, how have you helped others who maybe are adamant about change, Maybe they're a little bit afraid, but they're coming to you because they want that change. But it's very hard for them. How do you go about helping somebody like that I'm a little bit different.
Speaker 1:I filter for people who are just on the other side of that fear and I do this with. There's a distinction there, and I do it with discernment of my own, because I've been a coach to people who are in fear, and oftentimes people in fear want someone to hold their hand. Yeah, they want somebody to give them the answers and I can do that. But my best is when I'm taking you, when you're just at that You've gone from being in fear to I'm just putting one toe over the threshold yeah, because I'm ready for what comes next. Yes, and two over the threshold because I'm ready for what comes next, even though it's unknown, even though it's scary, even though I have no idea what this is going to look like. But I know it has to be better and I'm ready. Those are the people I work with, okay.
Speaker 2:And it's great that you differentiated that, because a lot of people might be listening and be like she's the closest and you'd be like, wait a minute, maybe not, but I like that and I like that and I like that, you know, and you set your boundaries of like, okay, this is my type of people, these are not, but I can guide you somewhere where maybe perhaps they can help you right, and I love that. Now I know a lot of entrepreneurs are going to be listening to this and I would like to touch on boundaries, like whether it comes to work or charity, and you dedicating your time to so much of this and you're kind of forgetting about, maybe, the family part or the things you used to love to do. How do you balance that when you're so like such a workaholic sometimes, right, how do I personally balance it or how do I work with my clients?
Speaker 2:How do you work with your clients? And then I'd like to know you too, what works for you.
Speaker 1:With my clients. It's about really eliminating everything. There's so much conditioning, there's so much. There's good chrome conditioning. It's about really eliminating everything. There's so much conditioning, there's so much. There's good chrome conditioning. There's leadership conditioning, there's wife conditioning, there's mom conditioning, like there's all this stuff.
Speaker 1:And primarily the people I work with are women, but even some men too. Like when they fall into that, like I have to be good, I have to do it all. I have to stuff down my feelings. Right, whatever that story is for them, I challenge them. I am not the coach for you. If you don't want to be challenged, I'm not going to buy into your BS story. I'm going to love you through it, but I'm not going to buy into the stories that you've been telling yourself, because those are the stories that have been keeping you stuck Right.
Speaker 1:So, in this playful way, we challenge and we're like you're telling me this, but how true is that really? Like, let's take a look at life, let's take a look at the patterns you have, let's take a look at the things you're saying. And I love language because it reveals so much. And, as a writer, like I love words. I say the words on my apothecary. You know they bring us exactly what we need and reveal exactly what's going on under the surface.
Speaker 1:And so I listened to what they're saying and I was like all right, well, like let's challenge the truth of that and holding something I do really really well, partly because I have a big energy myself, but also through the difficulty and trauma that I've gone through, I can hold a really big space for really big energy people, so that they can feel safe enough to let down their walls, to let down their guard and to really step into their vulnerability, which up until this point they've hidden so much, because they see it as a weakness, as a detriment to their growth, as a detriment to their leadership, as a detriment to their creativity.
Speaker 1:And that vulnerability is the key, because that is where their most beautiful self, their genius, their untapped ideas, their passion, their life force comes out. And so, when we can speak to that and align life to what really makes you happy, what is your genius, if you had everyone saying yes to you, no matter what you did, you couldn't go wrong. What does that look like? And we just kind of play with that idea and we keep restructuring and weeding away the things that don't work until we finally create a life that works for them, and also in a way that launches their idea or their initiative, in a way that creates success and happiness for everybody.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love that. And now back to the question for you when you're setting your boundaries, how do you like to set those boundaries and how do you find the best methods work? Is it pen and paper? Is it through listening to positive podcasts that bring you back down to? Okay, I've centered myself, I'm relaxing, making time for myself. How does that look for you?
Speaker 1:That lesson came through a lot of hard knocks. After the crash, what happened to us was very highly publicized. People came out of the woodwork, people that I didn't know and I had only lived in this area for a very short period of time and I felt very unsafe. I felt very seen in a way that I didn't want to be seen. People that felt like they knew me in a way that they didn't know me at all, and it was very difficult for me. It was very difficult for me to be in that visibility space but also to manage my own growth and healing through the trauma of that, and so I became very ruthless.
Speaker 1:Very ruthless was protecting my energy, protecting my sanity and if it requires me to step into a space, like there's a difference between being in a space or being in an environment with people or an initiative, or coming with you like it's fun and it's challenging, and stepping out of my bubble and my comfort zone of like I'm very much an introvert but it's exciting as opposed to the things that just feel like they're going to be draining no matter what energy I put into it.
Speaker 1:That's not for me and I even set boundaries for my kids. I'm like look like mom's going to go get a bath. We're going to leave mom alone for a while. I love it, or you know, just behavior or um, you know, in my relationship with my, my husband, like we've been married for 21 years and it's been a journey and a lot of it has been about setting boundaries and expectations of what do we expect from each other, what do we expect from ourselves and how do we keep leveling up that together as well, and I think that's that's the question I wake up with every day. It's like, all right, how do I level up and how I do it? How do I do it in a way that is most authentic and aligned for my energy, my needs and what I want to be in the world?
Speaker 2:You're very strong, I can tell I'm just like in a good way, Like I wish I could have that kind of like and maybe I can right.
Speaker 1:You're like well, I love that and I never see that. Thank you, because there was a time when I couldn't receive that so well, you know. Oh, you're strong, and it was interpreted as you're her bearing and you're going to steamroll people and so, yeah, I do this coaching work, but I have my own boulders. I have my own stories of like, oh, you're too much, you know, and that kept me from stepping into spaces or working with the type of clients I really wanted to, because I thought it was too much, until I realized it's my too much that creates that space that like allows other people to feel safe to be them Exactly. So be your too much, because who knows what kind of like beautiful bubble you create in the world?
Speaker 2:Exactly Amen to that. And now you said you were an author. So what kind of books have you written, how many have you had, and where can people find it? I know I'm asking you like a million questions.
Speaker 1:Okay, Okay. So I have a bunch of stuff. I have pieces of writing throughout my life. I'm a creative writer by nature.
Speaker 1:I am working on a memoir I am also working on, and the title is I'm playing with a little bit, but it's about whispering to the future. It's about the women in power who have overthought their whole lives. But it's their overthinking and the way that they approach that as a problem solving and who they are and bringing their best to the, to the business and the life that creates the success. Because there's so many women I work with, there's so many people I work with. They're like oh my God, I overthink and then I just can't make a decision. I have ADD brain like the same thing, Right, yeah, yeah, Right. And so we get stuck.
Speaker 1:But there there are women who have been able to like be in that kind of hamster wheel but then step out of it. In a way, they've used that hamster wheel and the momentum of that to their advantage, as opposed to being trapped. So I'm writing a book, I'm doing a research project of of women like that, so women leaders that I like admire and reaching out to. We'll see how that goes. Um, and then another one about my method and the leadership and what I think we need moving into this world as conscious leaders, Because I think the way we've been doing things in the past leadership just corporate nature and the entities as it is we need to start considering people themselves, we need to start considering the person, we need to start considering hearts and minds and lives and what is the impact we're creating beyond just the dollar?
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely. I was going to ask you look past them from what. But I say the money side of everything, right, and just know these people have lives, feelings, and that their impact is greater than just the monetary value that you've been getting from them. What are some common misconceptions in your industry that you've run into through the years that you've been gaining from them? What are some common misconceptions in your industry that you've run into through the years that you've been working Anything at all where it's just like I like her?
Speaker 1:Please debunk them or share something.
Speaker 1:I have a little bit of a soapbox. I do not think coaching is for everybody. There is a skill set, there is a way to approach coaching other people and it's not about telling them what to do. Um, I am much better at asking questions than I am in answering them, and that's my skill set of like, how do I ask the questions that that really draw the person, the things under the things right? I'm never going to take what do, what you tell me at surface value. I'm listening for what's underneath, like two or three layers deeper. Um, yeah, like coaching. To me, coaching is sacred, right? If you're going to be coaching like, you need to be out of your ego. You need to be in in a space that you are more concentrated on the client in front of you than yourself. Always check your ego, always check your stories, always check your bias, because if you're coming from any of those places, you're not coaching.
Speaker 2:Holy moly, wow, I love that. I love how clear you are. Like seriously, sometimes people don't know like what, what it is sometimes and I can kind of tell, but you're just like no girl, that's not, that's not it Like this is how I coach, this is what works for me. These people that's not my client, but I wish them the best. This is like I love that. I love how well you know that and you say that it's been a journey for you to get to that and I hope to be like that one day, like somewhere, like oh, I don't know Like I overthink these little things, and I shouldn't.
Speaker 2:I should just be more like that. But it's easier said than done. It's a process.
Speaker 1:One session with me will change your life. I'm telling you Okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we should, honestly. Yes, Thank you. Can you share a success story that highlights the impact of coaching on a client's life?
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, I'm smiling because she's one of my favorite clients. Oh, yay, I'm not going to share her name because that's totally fine. But she had a business and I love this business, very heart-centered, very working with new mothers and in that space and speaking with her. She is this force, she is this life, she is this like she is meant to be big in the world and in our work together. I could see her, like in the beginning, always pulling back, always pulling back from that edge, always pulling back from her edge. You know it's like, well, I want it but I can't because. But I want it but I can't because, right, like the story's getting away, and so through a year with different processes, different programs, um did some one-on-one work, but but I can't because, right, like the story's getting away, and so through a year with different processes, different programs, um did some one-on-one work, but but I hear together and I could see it before she did, and so I just kind of waited, you know, and I listened and you can never. I can kind of see where a client's going to go, but I'm never going to, I'm never going to leave them and I'm never going to jump steps ahead, because that doesn't, they can't hear it, it screws up their nervous system, it's just not. It's not good growth Right. So I meet them where they are listening, and we just kind of, and I always know that like I can sense that I know where things are going to go, but also like I'm aware enough to know that I don't know anything. Like, ultimately, you don't know what you don't know.
Speaker 1:Um, so I play in that space and what happened is she completely revamped. Um, she has that business but kind of restructured things. But then her new business is consultancy for political initiatives, for candidates and such. And seeing her take all of her genius, all of her personality and stepping into that and being on these stages with making that kind of impact. And then not just the money difference right, because the consultancy fees that she can charge now, but she's doing it with such ease. She was always very type A, very busy, very like high achieving, high performing, but overworked, edge of burnout, freaking out kind of space to getting compliments on how well she can lead from this space now and what she's doing with her life and her work. People are like how do you do it? And she texts me. She's like I can't believe people are saying this about me. Of course they are.
Speaker 2:What is this? Did you hypnotize her? What did you do, girl?
Speaker 1:I sit, I listen, I hold space, I ask really good questions and I don't take anything at face value and I will challenge you until you're happy with what you see in front of you in the mirror. Yeah, lovingly challenged, yeah.
Speaker 2:No, no, no yeah.
Speaker 1:Lovingly challenged and play Like. That's like the theme of everything I do.
Speaker 2:No, I love it and the fact that you were able to see that before she did like you kind of want like someone there in your life like that, like whether it's a coach or a friend, that who believes in you and who truly sees like like imposter syndrome. You don't see that within yourself, but somebody else and they devote and give you that time and kind of those things, because you said like I didn't want to mess up their nervous system and jump too ahead. It comes at the right time when people like learn some lessons maybe or go through certain things that they really perfect.
Speaker 1:This is the perfect moment to tell this person, and I don't, I don't tell them, I just wait till they come themselves. They start putting pieces together that work for them for where they are in that journey, in that moment in that journey, and just keep progressing.
Speaker 1:Truly self-discovery then because you're not like telling them that they're finding out and you're like bingo she got it because I know the moment that I want to jump in and tell somebody something like oh, this is what you should do. I tell myself in that moment you're wrong, Because you can never know someone better than they know themselves. Dang, and my job is helping them know themselves so deeply that they never have to question that negative voice or the imposter syndrome or their dreams and desires again.
Speaker 2:Wow, maybe if you need to book a session, I'm curious what you find. Thank you, all right. And then I don't know if this plays into maybe the type of coaching that you do, but what role does accountability play in your coaching process?
Speaker 1:I don't work with anybody who isn't accountable Period.
Speaker 2:I'm just like that's it, Sorry, girl.
Speaker 1:Next question Okay, I mean well, I mean I love it and I'll be there to kind of like check in. Yeah, right, but I'm never going to guide that accountability process because they're adults, they're high performers. Yeah, if I need to check on them, they're probably not going to be a good client for me.
Speaker 2:Wow. Okay, this is a. I just want to say that I've talked to a lot of coaches and it's a very different method, that I'm just right now sitting here learning new things and on some of my questions I'm just like, wow, this doesn't fit with this type of coach that I, I trust them.
Speaker 1:I trust them to be the leaders in their lives, because I've seen what they can accomplish. I see who they are at the deepest levels and I know all I have to do is sit and wait and when they're ready, we have the space and magic happens and then they move on and the next time we have a session again, I don't have to hold their hand along the way. Okay, if I do, then it ends up being more of what I see rather than what they see.
Speaker 2:Okay, no, yeah, that's shifting my mind, because I didn't know there were coaches like that You're probably the first one on this show but where it's like, yeah, I'm there to hold them accountable and I can hold their hand and stuff. So that's what I thought coaching was. So you've just like, opened another coach. Third eye to my brain.
Speaker 1:Well, there's a difference, like if they need accountability for a reason, like as a neurodivergent, like sometimes that daily check-in can be helpful, but it's not because they need me to push them right. That kind of accountability, well, I can't do it on myself. I don't have the motivation, right. Keep me accountable, no, because I'm doing the work for you and you're not learning anything.
Speaker 2:You're not growing.
Speaker 1:And I'm not going to take your money and us to work together. I'm not going to waste your time or your money for you not to become the person you really want to be.
Speaker 2:Wow, that is such a good point and so well said. Truly, think about it. You want people doing the work for you. Like you said, you're not going to grow, you're not going to learn. Thanks for the money, I guess, but you?
Speaker 1:clearly want something deeper.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you clearly want something deeper and you want to find the purpose within them in different ways that you offer.
Speaker 1:It would be easier. I could grow my business a lot faster if I took the kind of clients that come to me. But I know my best work isn't with that client. I love them and I can work with them, but it's not in their best interest. Is it not ethical of me to take them on as a client when they're really not ready for that type of coaching? Yeah, Wow.
Speaker 2:Well, thank you for being transparent and honest with me, because my questions kind of felt like wow, maybe I'm not asking the right questions, but anyway, is there anything maybe that I have not touched on? That you want to get out there? Maybe you want to share about yourself, maybe you have something coming up like an event, another book we talked about that Something about your family, something about yourself that we're missing the mark on that you want to share, I don't know, okay, the thing in my heart right now.
Speaker 1:I mean, I live with least one cohort and I just got my trademark for Conscious Sovereign Congrats, yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1:It's been a couple times, but I'm stretching it to, and every time I do it I'm revamping, I'm changing it, I'm evolving it, I'm fine-tuning it type of thing.
Speaker 1:But it's ultimately a self-leadership program and anyone in any level of maybe they're trying to figure out how to lead themselves better in in their business, or maybe they're trying to lead better in the professional capacity that they are in their career, or maybe it's just you know someone at home who's trying to figure out, like, how do I stop freaking the f? Out when my kids are losing it, my husband's doing whatever I've got this other thing, and like life is crushing down? How do I not lose my, lose my pants, when I need to stay calm and I want to be the best of me? How do I be the best of me, no matter what's going on around me? And so that's why I've titled it Conscious, sovereign. It's about bringing that consciousness and that sovereign presence of how do we lid ourselves with the heart and the love and the passion and the creative force and the life force of who we are to bring our best forward, no matter what's going on around us yeah, and where can people find this resource?
Speaker 2:will it be on your website? Will you post an edit on insta?
Speaker 1:oh, that's funny. I really don't do social media. I should, I should, but I don't. Um, I much before. I much prefer I'm sorry being with people face to face. Word of mouth works really well for me. Um, you'll find me on Facebook once in a while. I kind of have an Instagram, but I don't really do anything with it, and MindySchultzCoachingcom is my website. So M-I-N-D-Y-S-C-H-U-L-Z coaching C-O-A-C-H-I-N-G. So no T in my name.
Speaker 2:For those of you wondering now, you know. Thank you so much. Last question If you could leave us with a message, a mantra or a saying that has inspired you.
Speaker 1:What would that be? I'm going to pause now because there are so many that come to mind. Yeah, take your time, ain't no rush here. I think the one that's never failed, and when I am, I'm a human right. I struggle with stress and everyone with things like that too once in a while. But when we can be in that space of calm, connected to who we are, to universe, our spirituality or just those around us, in that presence, lead with love, always lead with love, and it will never steer you wrong.
Speaker 2:Thank you, love is everything. Thank you so much for being here and I appreciate your time and so much wisdom, and I myself learned a lot it's been fun. Thank you so much, you're welcome.