Speaker 1: 0:31

My name is Elizabeth Alice Croydon. I am a stand-up comedian, I am a writer, I am a teacher of communication, I am a tour guide that takes tourists around to the very best pubs near the White House and I tell them ghost stories that have been documented historically, and I discuss 21 years of experience as a professional psychic. Wow, yeah, okay, I'm so psychic I need out of bodyguards stop it.

Speaker 2: 1:12

You're also a producer I won't what.

Speaker 1: 1:14

You're also a producer. Yes, I am a producer. Thanks for bringing up what. You're also a producer. Yes, I am a producer. Don't forget that one. Thanks for bringing it up. I wear many hats, as you can see. I have one on now.

Speaker 2: 1:20

You sure do, you sure do.

Speaker 1: 1:22

I am a producer. I have produced two feature movies that I am very proud of Washington Interns, gone Bad, which was my first political comedy, or apolitical comedy. It's a political comedy either way. Really, when you think about it, dc stands for diplomatic courtesy, and I'll leave it at that, okay. And then I produced underbelly blues, which was a quentin tarantino parody. Uh, that made fun of corruption from the bottom gutter to the top of the corporate echelons, all right and now it's all interconnected. It's a dirty dirty world.

Speaker 2: 2:01

Oh my God Stop. I'm not going to be able to keep a straight face this whole time. Work with me here, Elizabeth.

Speaker 1: 2:08

I don't know it's like the ancestor Don Rickles, coming through. He went to my American Academy of Dramatic Arts, went to my college. Dave Chappelle went to my high school. I went to Duke Ellington School for the Arts in Washington DC.

Speaker 1: 2:23

Oh my goodness, Okay, absolutely, I did not know that he was a year younger than me and apparently my algebra teacher's favorite, she would have these mental breakdowns without even Dave being in the class. She would have these mental breakdowns without even Dave being in the class. Ha, ha, ha ha. And she would be like why can't you all just be like that nice Dave Chappelle, oh my. And we were like who is Dave Chappelle and what is he doing that we are not?

Speaker 2: 2:49

You're showing up to class. I'm just kidding, right Kidding.

Speaker 1: 2:52

Yeah well, I did that sometimes. Okay, duck and cover, dc Right Kidding. Yeah Well, I did that sometimes. Okay, duck and cover.

Speaker 2: 2:56

DC stands for duck and cover so many things.

Speaker 1: 2:58

Dc stands for it does it does Amen A women Americans, let's do this. So yeah. So there's thousands of women right now walking out of work. Why are we here working? It's International Human Rights Day and today is the day that PublishERANoworg has chosen to stage a national walkout for the Equal Rights Amendment. It's the 28th amendment of our Constitution and it lifts women up and gives us equality under the law. Yeah, yeah, I get a little soft and reclent when I talk about it.

Speaker 2: 3:39

Sip some water. No, I'm just kidding. Maybe so, right, maybe so. Now I would like to ask you a little bit of a backstory about yourself and how you got started in your industry. How did you end up wearing so many hats?

Speaker 1: 3:54

Give us the scoop. Well, I like to entertain myself, and so I master one art and I want to learn another, and when I was taking 12 classes a day at Duke Ellington in the theater department, I really began to understand how every art is interconnected and I wanted more than anything to support other artists and to support their artistic vision unfolding. So that requires a lot of knowledge as a producer. There's an entire art to it. Are you an alpha producer controlling everything with an agenda? Are you a relaxed producer that knows you've picked the right creatives that come together and make a nice blend? Are you somewhere in between so many places you can go with your paintbrush when you're making a full movie? You have every art in the world, including life, which I try and live very well. Good yeah, cheers to that, cheers to that.

Speaker 1: 4:59

And Grohlsteiner water Very good water. I've never had that. Oh, it's very high in minerals. I need that for my teeth. I taught myself how to walk again. I lost the use of my legs last summer and I went on an anti-inflammatory diet and beat the doctor's prescription for surgery. Wow.

Speaker 2: 5:19

Oh my gosh, what can I ask? What happened to your leg?

Speaker 1: 5:23

Um, they just decided to drop out, like, like, like delinquent students from a school. Uh, like I dropped out from acting school and went to study Aikido under Steven Seagal. Okay, you know, they just did their own thing for a while. And part of the job of a martial artist or at least in my case, now I'm so injured, a martial graffiti artist is you have to know the right tags to heal yourself. Yeah, so I did everything anti-inflammatory and avoided surgery.

Speaker 2: 6:00

Wow, well, I'm glad that your legs decided to come back.

Speaker 1: 6:04

Yes, I have legs, and that's important in the industry. Shout out to your legs, thank you. I love that yeah.

Speaker 2: 6:10

And you are part of the West Side Comedy Club. Is that correct? Oh yeah, I'll be going up there December 17th. Talk to me a little bit about that and your involvement. All right Well.

Speaker 1: 6:25

Felicia Madison has been a longtime friend and she is an amazing woman and a great producer in her own right. She books almost every lineup in her club and it's one of the best-kept secrets on the Upper West Side. I love this club. I spent 20 years cutting my chops at the comedy store. I've been all over the country. There are more places I could go, of course, and am willing, but this little club on the Upper West Side is so positive. It's just chocked with new talent and it has my favorite show ever, which is Not Right Bananas. You got to break out fresh jokes jokes so fresh you can smell them Okay.

Speaker 2: 7:14

Yeah, love that. I do I love that for you you look a little unsure Because I'm like wait there's no cover.

Speaker 1: 7:20

There's no minimum purchase. You can just go and judge us, you know, I like that. We want your laughter, that's all. We're after the laughter and brand new jokes. Some of them smell good.

Speaker 2: 7:33

Some of them smell good some of them smell funny, some of them have you walking out. I'm kidding. I'd like to ask, like, how do you come up with your jokes and what kind of things do you, I guess, talk about or touch on? Is it pop culture based or is it everything?

Speaker 1: 7:48

oh, um, different ways, but I sort of. I am the sort of artist and comic that lives philosophically by what I say. Okay, and when I was a child I didn't really get to watch a lot of music video MTV.

Speaker 2: 8:10

MTV was banned in your house.

Speaker 1: 8:11

That was the thing, yeah, and I had to sneak it when my grandparents were out of the retirement home. Uh-oh, I had to change the channel from golf to rock and roll and then back real fast, and my grandmother would come home from patrolling the neighborhood. She was on the gardening committee and she would be complaining about Mrs So-and-so's flowers and shrubbery growing over the fence. And now she had to read them the Riot Act. And I was like, what is the riot act? And if I read it to my parents, can I watch?

Speaker 2: 8:45

rock and roll. What'd she say?

Speaker 1: 8:48

she was like well, sometimes you just gotta stand in your own power, yeah right, I was like right on grandma, I'm gonna I'm gonna go home and read my parents the Riot Act. It didn't work, but for me it became like a religious missile of rock and roll and I live my life by those tenets, like, for example, riot Act, jackson Five Commandments.

Speaker 2: 9:12

Wow Okay.

Speaker 1: 9:13

Yeah, deep Thou shalt Tito.

Speaker 2: 9:15

I was going to say what are those five?

Speaker 1: 9:16

commandments Thou shalt Tito and we'll get back to Tito. I was going to say what are those five commandments? Thou shalt Tito and we'll get back to Tito. Until it's gone, that shall moonwalk and make it look easy like top shelf Tito does. If you need help, moonwalking Love that Thou shalt mama say mama, sama, mapusa or makusa. I'm not really certain about that lyric, but I think the subtext is thou shalt try to learn another language besides English.

Speaker 2: 9:45

Yes, I like that they use that line Ipe atene, donde esta el baño.

Speaker 1: 9:50

You got it Domo arigato, mr Roboto, just try. A little effort, a little effort will be it. Love that Thou shalt control. A little effort, a little effort will be it. Love that Thou shalt control. Yes, janet Jackson was the sixth Jackson Five, much like there was a fifth Beatle. And she does control You're funny. All right, I'd like to ask and then number five beat it Like we shall beat it to your next question. Okay, thank you, that was smooth right there.

Speaker 2: 10:23

I love that transition. No one needs to be defeated. Thank you, appreciate that. I'd like to ask you like what are some marketing, I guess, moves that you're making currently to get the word out there about yourself, your business, your comedy? Is it more word of mouth? Are you online? Are you avid on social media?

Speaker 1: 10:45

There's media out there about me. I make a splish and a splash here and there. I work with Cheech and Chong. Underbelly Blues was a quarter million dollar movie. There's a little scuffle with me in the Senate gallery yelling at Tedz for voting against women's rights I think I read that.

Speaker 1: 11:02

Oh my gosh I, um, I, right now I'm going through like a transformative cocooning butterfly thing. I'm on blue sky. I'm on instagram as elizabeth underscore, underscore Croydon. Yeah, but I just financed and this is only for this podcast oh, because now I'm upset but I'm actually speaking what I've manifested. But I just financed five pilot episodes of a comedy show called judgmental and I am judge, elemental. We will be discussing important topics like original songs versus covers. Ah, that sounds fun. Yeah, yes, voss or vase. How?

Speaker 2: 11:49

is it said Potato patata.

Speaker 1: 11:50

Exactly, exactly, niche law, knick-knack, paddywhack law, okay, yeah, so we're having a good time with that at church of satire. Okay, and the first episode gets taped January 11th.

Speaker 2: 12:05

And where can people watch this? It's going to be on and also oh, um we.

Speaker 1: 12:10

we are keeping it under wraps right now regarding broadcast because we have several interested buyers, I'm pleased to say.

Speaker 2: 12:21

Wow, congratulations.

Speaker 1: 12:22

You have to come to the comedy club to see it, okay, unless I am informed by my higher-ups who have the money. Okay, gotcha, I only have the artistic honey on that. But you can also catch me in DC and take a tour with me, a historically documented ghost tour around the white house, which happens to be one of the most uh, yeah, well, most legitimately documented. Like there are secret servicemen on record asking for seances to request the ghosts chilling out. One in particular is abe lincoln. He haunts that white house like there's no tomorrow. And you know, I mean, it's a tough job.

Speaker 1: 13:09

being armed 24 7, you don't need a ghost tapping you on the shoulder and we go to yeah we go to three, three mandated pubs, and then we uh we usually end the night on one of my tours at the Round Robin at the Willard having one of the historically correct mint juleps. But it's a good time. It's nightlyspiritscom, yeah, and if you use the words EC667, you can get 10% off of my tour or any tour in the country. We're in 18 cities. I don't know why I'm rolling my eyes like this, but it feels good.

Speaker 2: 13:49

You should I do that a lot People are like how do you do?

Speaker 1: 13:51

that. I love that. I'm like let's do it. No, feel free to do that more. I won't take offense to it.

Speaker 2: 13:56

I would like to also ask you if we want to catch you on your comedy club. Where can we find the dates and what are the places that you're doing the shows at?

Speaker 1: 14:07

You can find me at misslizzybluesky, I'm always letting folks know what I'm doing there.

Speaker 2: 14:13

I'm on.

Speaker 1: 14:13

TikTok as misslizzy L-I-Z-Z-Y because I want to Miss Lizzie. Uh, l I Z Z Y because I want to um Elizabeth Croydon with an underscore C R O Y D O N? Uh, like the suburb in London Gotcha, uh and um, I keep all of the affairs posted up there, yeah.

Speaker 2: 14:35

Yeah, beautiful. Um, oh, man, I wanted to ask you do you have like a ghost story that you could share with us? Maybe it has to be a real one, though it has to be a real one, they're all real.

Speaker 1: 14:48

Well, yeah, I worked as a professional psychic for 21 years, so I have extraordinary stories and experiences to pull from. I would like to hear this is jimmy hendrix and the bong stop it.

Speaker 1: 15:01

Yes, that's fine I will not stop it, neither, neither would jimmy. He liked my bong. My boyfriend bought me a hot pink ufo graphics bong. That sparkled, oh my goodness, the ufo was at the base. I, I twinkled and it was driven by this schwa alien in like a Jersey t-shirt, flexing Would you, and he was like giving the side eye. And I was running at the time the first Cannabis Buyers Club in New York City in 1997. Okay, club in New York City in 1997. And when I would close up shop before acting school, I would sweep up the leftover medical cannabis and treat my own PTSD. And for the longest time I kept hearing in my head yo, yo, yo, yo yo. Play my music and put the ball on the ancestor altar.

Speaker 2: 16:03

And it wasn't the weed.

Speaker 1: 16:05

Right, okay, that was a good guess, right, because I'm like Elizabeth. You went to Duke Ellington School for the Arts and, if I might say, this is a relatively stereotypical African American man's voice that you are making up in your head. You know better than to feed into stereotypes. You read all of Langston Hughes. You know who Paul Robeson is. Dc stands for dark chocolate. That's how we roll in this town. Shame on you, right? And then, as it turns out, acting exercises are the same sort of exercises that clairvoyance or mediums use to enhance their talent. And one day I'm coming home from Meisner class and I go. It's Jimi Hendrix. That's why I've been wanting to play Jimi Hendrix. I don't know Jimi Hendrix, but I've been cravingmy hendrix is visiting my ancestor altar and he likes my bong. So I ran home. I well, first I went to, I went to barnes and noble, I went to to the, the corporate store that had it all got the greatest hits of jimmy hendrix, right he made one sale that day.

Speaker 2: 17:16

Yeah, yeah he wanted.

Speaker 1: 17:18

He wanted to hear his best. Why would I get his worst for him? Why would I play him his B-sides? I just do the A for Jimmy. I play it. I put the bong on the ancestor altar, the voices go away. My schizophrenia is unchecked to this day. That's not how it ends, though. I'm moving out of New York in June and my friend Christopher is helping me a very young man of legal age and consent, and it's very important to me, since I worked on the legalization laws to make that clear and I did not budget correctly the amount of labor time versus his pay, and I needed to give him something yes and he wanted something I said well, you can have this bong, but, right, jimmy hendrix likes this bong.

Speaker 1: 18:16

And, ah jeez, another one of my uncle's crazy friends. And I was like, okay, all right, you don't want the bong, I'll take it. And no, no, no, no, leaving here with something, take the bong, all right. So Chris takes it back to Washington DC. Stands for District of Cannabis, an excellent brand, elizabethan-endorsed brand, if I do say so myself.

Speaker 2: 18:41

Okay, good to know.

Speaker 1: 18:43

And I bring over my first hydroponic medical grow to his home and I say where's the bong? Get it out. He said, oh, I don't want to get out the bong. My uncle's been on a terrible whiskey binger and it's just been awful to watch him in his addiction. So he won't be up until the afternoon. This is medical grade cannabis that could help your uncle get the bong. So he gets the bong. We're doing rips with the coffee table and the bong. The uncle wakes up, comes out terrible cocaine, narcotic whiskey, hangover shameful, shameful substance abuse. Hard to watch your friends go through it. I support all of my friends that work toward their sobriety. And he sees the bong on the table and he turns white as a ghost. He got whitey, he goes. That bong was in my dream last night. I dreamt I was playing chess with jimmy hendrix and he said yo, yo, yo, yo, stop it, don't do the blow.

Speaker 2: 19:52

Here you go and passed him my bong, he rhymed it just like that and and I was like, see, see, chris was like whoa.

Speaker 1: 20:02

I was like, did I lie? I did not lie. Jimi Hendrix likes my bong, he does.

Speaker 2: 20:10

I wonder why that is. I mean, that's pretty cool.

Speaker 1: 20:12

Well, I could answer that because I have 21 years as a psychic and a medium and I've studied a lot of arts years as a psychic and a medium and I've studied a lot of arts. But that gets into details and physics.

Speaker 2: 20:24

I don't think my brain can handle that today.

Speaker 1: 20:27

Right, how long have we rambled for? You're making me forget time and space. I think that's a good thing.

Speaker 2: 20:34

It's a great thing Good.

Speaker 1: 20:36

Yeah, I love it. Yeah, it's bong 30 for sure.

Speaker 2: 20:39

I'd like to ask you when you're not helping people figure out the stories going on with ghosts around here in the White House, yes, and having a good laugh on stage or cry, oh never cry. Oh, just kidding.

Speaker 1: 20:55

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 20:56

What do you like I?

Speaker 1: 20:56

mean, if it's funny, I'll cry.

Speaker 2: 20:58

That's what I mean, like that like me?

Speaker 1: 21:01

stop it. I tried to put my own makeup on okay, I love this.

Speaker 2: 21:09

I always bust the sound check. I think it's busted.

Speaker 1: 21:14

They'll say your ears okay, back there, I'm just kidding, I know, yeah, I hope so, I hope so I think you may have ruptured her eardrum. It's okay, I hope you're insured.

Speaker 2: 21:23

I've got news for you. I'm just kidding. I would like to ask what do you like to do on your free time? Free time You're like this is my free time.

Speaker 1: 21:34

Yeah, I like to work for the Equal Rights Amendment. It's very personal to me. In 1972, my mother sat me down and she was weeping and she said, lizzie, you and your generation will never have to worry again about being mistreated or paid inequitably. And I believed her and I knew it was really important because my mother was weeping and I was two, so I didn't understand that women had just gained the right to have our own credit card without a man signing for us.

Speaker 2: 22:14

Wow.

Speaker 1: 22:15

I did not understand what was at stake. And then, when I learned that the Equal Rights Amendment was not ratified. And then, when I learned that the Equal Rights Amendment was not ratified, I set about with EqualMeansEqualorg and EqualMeansEqualcom to get the last three states to ratify the amendment. And now all we need is for Joe Biden to publish it. He could literally just pick up the phone today, say he saw this podcast between you and I and he realized that he would be my greatest hero in the entire world. And he just called the National Archivist and said you know what? Let's take that DOJ memo off of that silly amendment and run a new constitution. But you see, it'll cost more than the profits that were lost when we freed enslaved people to give women equality. And that is why we don't hear it discussed, like we hear reproductive rights discussed. And it means a whole lot more than just parceling out the medical bits of our body which we should have autonomy over entirely.

Speaker 1: 23:25

I agree, but that's another fight for another day. Yes, ma'am, and I don't want to bore you with a two and a half hour political speech about it. Amen, amen, women, amen.

Speaker 2: 23:36

I think I'd be right there, we'd be talking to everybody. Yeah, please.

Speaker 1: 23:39

Hey, let's walk out of work right now. Bye, I'm just kidding, they're all at the Supreme Court.

Speaker 2: 23:44

Yes, and I don't know that Joe's going to hear this podcast. I don't know that Joe's going to hear this podcast. I don't know if he's going to be awake.

Speaker 1: 23:53

I don't know if he's going to be awake. I hope so.

Speaker 2: 23:56

He could be a hero, sleepy Joe His yes people, his yes people.

Speaker 1: 24:07

We ratified when President Trump was in office and I have no problems lobbying him the same way I would lobby Joe. They're both mantiques and it's time for women to take over. And now that I have exposed myself as a female supremacist, I will quietly say that I will compromise with equality.

Speaker 2: 24:31

Go right ahead. I'm there with you Now. Is there anything maybe I have not touched on? I want to make sure I get good content for you. Maybe I'm missing the marks. Is there anything that you would like to share, whether it's about yourself, your background, your history, your industry, comedians, misconceptions?

Speaker 1: 24:50

Oh, uh, you know um, I love it all. Uh, comedians and misconceptions. I don't know why, but whenever I think of, uh, robin Williams and I'm missing my keys of Robin Williams, and I'm missing my keys, I find them within a minute I knew him.

Speaker 1: 25:09

He was a lovely man. There are a lot of misconceptions around him like there are a lot of misconceptions around me but I think that's in part because we don't listen to each other closely enough, Mm-hmm. And if there's one thing I want my work to do, when I'm making a comedy, when I'm working on a show for someone, it's bring us together and not apart. And so Joe Biden can be a part of the Equal Rights Amendment movement by just picking up the phone. Picking up the phone calling the National Archivist and giving us equality under the law, and that will actually protect LGBTQIA community as well, because the way the amendment is written it is discrimination. Equality under the law will not be discriminated against on the basis of sex. So there you go.

Speaker 2: 26:06

Yes, no. What was that quote that I want to say for Marsha P Johnson? I can't remember. And now I feel horrible.

Speaker 1: 26:14

I'm trash, I don't know there are so many stories. I think I hit my if we're just letting the camera run to go on things that were. I don't know how you put together your podcast, Really. I looked at pieces of it and didn't see any edits, really so there's not. Oh, okay, great, so we're still free flowing.

Speaker 2: 26:35

We're still free flowing, we're still Okay, excellent, you know.

Speaker 1: 26:38

I. There's so much to share. I enjoy being a native Washingtonian. I enjoy that greatly and some of your business clients should know that I work with businesses way behind the scenes, like I don't want people to know that I'm serious and people shouldn't know that I'm working with them if they want to be taken seriously. But I do know that DC stands for for don't confess and I will not tell you my roster of political speech clients. But I do help people relax in front of the camera and be themselves and I enjoy that very much. But, more importantly, I enjoy protecting what Washington DC stands for. I've lost count, by the way, and that is diverse count. Yes, and as a native Washingtonian, I'm on the B plan. I have been here long before you and I will be here when you go.

Speaker 2: 27:40

Why did I think that was plan B? Here when you go? Why did I think that was plan B? I was like wait a minute.

Speaker 1: 27:44

I've got that too.

Speaker 2: 27:53

I have.

Speaker 1: 27:53

I have stacks of that.

Speaker 2: 27:54

I'm ready, with my low rider, to drive into Texas and rescue an underage pregnant girl who wants an abortion, which they should have the right to, but that's for another day which they should have a right to for another day, and it's a crime I haven't committed yet, so I don't think I can be arrested for that yet.

Speaker 1: 28:06

Anything's possible in 2025, y'all Pass ERA now, joe Now.

Speaker 2: 28:12

We know you're listening, despite what I said, just kidding, yeah he is listening.

Speaker 1: 28:17

He does have an ear to the desire, to the desire. He, like other sitting presidents, sometimes have to adhere to what corporate America thinks is profitable and how they would like to do it. Joe has the ability to pick up the phone and literally tell the archivist to publish this amendment, but he would like the preamble deadline removed. So, senator Kirsten Gillibrand, gillibrand Something I think it's Gillibrand Might be Gillibrand Potato potato.

Speaker 1: 29:00

Right, potato, potato. Let judgmental decide. Exactly. Going back to my sitcom, she has legislation to remove that deadline. But see, I'm a radical feminist. That deadline doesn't need to be removed. It's an arbitrary deadline. Yes, what we need is the amendment to be published.

Speaker 2: 29:19

Yes, um oh my god, that scared me. Did you see that me?

Speaker 1: 29:23

yeah, that, yeah, yes, I know I was like you're having a mike pence fly moment and when the debate? When the fly flew on him I, I was I hope that's not a fly. I don't want to act, freak out, so she doesn't act oh, I felt it, I was freak out and I was like wow, that's a big fly. Is that a fly, please?

Speaker 2: 29:42

Please not a horsefly. Those hurt?

Speaker 1: 29:45

No, I hope it didn't bite you?

Speaker 2: 29:47

No, it didn't, but I felt its fuzziness.

Speaker 1: 29:49

Well, that's nice Kind of yeah it was gross. I mean, I hope it was warm and fuzzy it was not.

Speaker 2: 29:53

It was terrifying. I'm sorry. It's okay, I'm sorry, no awful, all right all right.

Speaker 1: 30:02

So got weird real fast. It got so weird, so fine, that's all right these are the vibes for today, and I love it yeah for it. Uh, yeah, no me too. Why be normal when you've trained so hard to be expressive?

Speaker 2: 30:15

so hard now? My final question that I would like to ask you is one that I've asked everybody, as you know probably, maybe, don't do it in a drum roll.

Speaker 1: 30:24

I'm just kidding, do you have?

Speaker 2: 30:27

a quote or a saying that's been told to you or that you've read, that's inspired you in any way, and would you mind sharing that with us? Oh?

Speaker 1: 30:36

Oh, yeah, yeah. Um, when I was at duke ellington, uh, we would all go to the library to read even more poetry, and I remember this one quote. I do not know who it's by, but I have lived by it and that is so. Her screaming would not give her away. She began to sing. That's sad.

Speaker 2: 31:18

It's beautiful.

Speaker 1: 31:21

Really, did you want something funny? No, okay, okay, all right. It's not that I want to be there when death happens. It's not that I'm afraid of it, yeah, it's just I don't want to be there when it happens. Wow, until then it's gotten heavy. I feel like I threw a gravity switch on. You did like non-violent incentive weapons. Like I'm so sad. I don't feel like fighting today. Really me too. Okay, let's just sit down and cry it out cry it out.

Speaker 1: 31:59

Nobody knows that the gravity lever has been pulled. It's been so pulled. We should incentivize nonviolence. Get like a tax rebate every time someone doesn't shoot a CEO from a health care company or commit a mass shooting. Just you know, get $1,500 back, $700 back. Hey, man, you made it, you didn't kill anyone. That's a great thing in America, no worries. Incentivize non-violence. Think about having a peace economy as opposed to a war economy. You know, yeah, it's these things, these things I think about. I fear that will never happen for us. Oh, it'll happen. Yeah, I believe it. Uh, you know, you have, you have to. You have to, like Don Quixote fighting the windmills. You got to know there's a punchline out there somewhere. I believe in the Barbie Dalai Lama, I believe in the Salvador Dalai Lama, but most importantly, as an American, I believe in the Muhammad Ali Lama, because sometimes you have to fight for your right to party.

Speaker 2: 33:07

Okay. Bc boys, I think we've had enough. No, I'm just kidding, you're funny, okay.

Speaker 1: 33:11

There, okay, all right it was touching, it was funny it was. We're friends. Now we are. Are you going to come drinking?

Speaker 2: 33:18

with me at the Round Robin.

Speaker 1: 33:24

Well, funny, you say that because I stopped drinking, so okay, great, so you can have one of their mocktails perfect excellent. They have a great rosemary mint oh yeah, it's awesome. I'm not a big drinker myself. I'm proud of you thanks all right. Well, thank you so much for being on the podcast this was my pleasure this was different and great and I love it yay I'm glad to be different and great and I'm glad you loved it thank you yeah, thank you.